Marijuana use in young people may cause lack of motivation later in life

[PokerGuy]

Sorry TH, the conclusions of the study don't follow dopehead desires and must therefore be considered null and void

Bottom line, doing drugs -- any drugs, legal or illegal, especially when the brain is still actively forming can and will have lasting impact on the brain. The only question is what the impact is and whether the tradeoffs are worth it or not. We know for example that anti-biotics used by children can have negative long term consequences, but the perceived benefits outweigh negatives.

 

[Texashiker]

Sorry TH, the conclusions of the study don't follow dopehead desires and must therefore be considered null and void

Bottom line, doing drugs -- any drugs, legal or illegal, especially when the brain is still actively forming can and will have lasting impact on the brain.

The ones I feel for are the teenagers who use drugs and alcohol when they are 14, 15, 16, 17,,, and then battle addiction their whole life.

We all know someone from high school who started drinking and ended up in rehab. The people I knew either committed suicide later in life, or have not done anything with their life. Not done anything as in not applied themselves. Do not have a steady career, did not go to college, hop from job-to-job, family problems,,,,.

Now with young teens smoking stuff like K2 and taking bath salts, what are the long term effects going to be?

What really bothers me is the evidence out there showing early drug exposure has long term effects, and the federal government drags its knuckles on regulating synthetic weed and bath salts.

It was probably 2 years ago I started a thread here about someone I knew smoking K2.

EDIT

Found the thread, - http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2166971

Why aren't we doing more to stop young people from using weed?

If you told a 15 year old, "if you smoke this it is going to screw up the rest of your life", chances are they would not care.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Fox News you say? Seems legit !

Don't like Fox News, how about NBC?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/legal-pot/marijuana-re-shapes-brains-users-study-claims-n81126

Or ABC?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/study-finds-signs-brain-pot-smokers-23337131

Or USA Today?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/15/marijuana-brain-changes/7749309/

Or Northwestern University (The University that performed the study)?

http://www.northwestern.edu/newscen...ve-abnormal-brain-structure--poor-memory.html

 

[norseamd]

The ones I feel for are the teenagers who use drugs and alcohol when they are 14, 15, 16, 17,,, and then battle addiction their whole life. We all know someone from high school who started drinking and ended up in rehab. The people I knew either committed suicide later in life, or have not done anything with their life. Not done anything as in not applied themselves. Do not have a steady career, did not go to college, hop from job-to-job, family problems,,,,. Now with young teens smoking stuff like K2 and taking bath salts, what are the long term effects going to be? What really bothers me is the evidence out there showing early drug exposure has long term effects, and the federal government drags its knuckles on regulating synthetic weed and bath salts. It was probably 2 years ago I started a thread here about someone I knew smoking K2. The response I got was horrifying. Almost nobody had a problem with it.

synthetics are horrible

think of all those who are addicted to meth and painkillers like oxycotin and then heroin

sad thing is i was starting out saying just meth and then thought about all the oxycontin that is available

 

[nehalem256]

Sorry TH, the conclusions of the study don't follow dopehead desires and must therefore be considered null and void

Hey, its not their fault. The emotional centers of their brain were probably damaged by all their pot smoking :sneaky:

 

[Jhhnn]

Sorry TH, the conclusions of the study don't follow dopehead desires and must therefore be considered null and void

Sorry- the study uses pseudo-scientific methods to reach a conclusion appealing to prohibitionists.

The methodology cannot differentiate cause & effect, as I pointed out earlier.

 

[Jhhnn]

Don't like Fox News, how about NBC?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/legal-pot/marijuana-re-shapes-brains-users-study-claims-n81126

Or ABC?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/study-finds-signs-brain-pot-smokers-23337131

Or USA Today?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/15/marijuana-brain-changes/7749309/

Or Northwestern University (The University that performed the study)?

http://www.northwestern.edu/newscen...ve-abnormal-brain-structure--poor-memory.html

I think the reportage is reasonably accurate all the way around.

OTOH, there will be way too many people willing to make something out of it all in ways not justified by the study itself, particularly in the astroturfing world of right wing propaganda. It's like a game of Telephone or malicious gossip raised to a higher level.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I thought it was somewhat known and accepted that smoking MJ before your early 20's *can* have this effect on some people. Drinking alcohol, smoking tobacco, slamming cough syrup, all legal items that can have a negative effect. No reason at all MJ shouldn't be legal. It is definitely the lesser evil compared to many legal substances.

If the right wingers really believed in a small non intrusive government, I would think they'd be for legalizing MJ as well.

 

[Jhhnn]

This is not particularly surprising if you keep up with marijuana studies, in that it's fairly well known that using marijuana before your brain is fully developed (~24-25 years of age) can change how it develops.

Unsubstantiated assertion, certainly wrt the age frame of 24-25 years old. Even NIDA puts that at under 18, iirc.

 

[Newell Steamer]

And smoking filtered cigarettes actually make you healthier!!

http://www.healthcare-administratio...intage-cigarette-ads-promising-better-health/

And lose weight, and save my throat,..

 

[BlitzPuppet]

synthetics are horrible

think of all those who are addicted to meth and painkillers like oxycotin and then heroin

sad thing is i was starting out saying just meth and then thought about all the oxycontin that is available

I can't imagine life without painkillers (surgery).

Can you imagine waking up after having surgery to the immense amount of pain if they didn't use morphine?

People who get addicted to heroin, meth, and other "self prescribed" recreational drugs all deserve what's coming to them. Just because opiates (heroin and the like) are terrible doesn't mean that useful things haven't come from them. It's all up to the individual on what they put into their body.

I for one am disgusted by anyone that does any sort of recreational drug, hell smoking even grosses me out as our bodies were not made to process smoke/tar.

Oh, and fuck vegans too. We're omnivores god damnit!

 

[alzan]

You are comparing college young adults with high school kids? really?

The brain goes through a lot of development in the teenage years.

Yes, he really is comparing college young adults with high school teens/young adults.

Brain development continues well into the 20's.

http://www.news-medical.net/news/20...nt-does-not-stop-at-adolescence-Research.aspx

 

[norseamd]

Yes, he really is comparing college young adults with high school teens/young adults. Brain development continues well into the 20's. http://www.news-medical.net/news/201...-Research.aspx

brain development continues all your life well past your 30s

as you get older you start to make decisions quicker based on previous experience

 

[TreVader]

Considering that a large percentage of the most influential and successful people in history were massive drug addicts (Freud comes to mind) I somehow doubt pot is an excuse for being unmotivated.




Maybe you should go to AA TH? It sounds like you might have a problem with people having problems.

 

[norseamd]

I somehow doubt pot is an excuse for being unmotivated.

try logic

pot can make unmotivation

but it still has to overcome a motivated human

 

[TechBoyJK]

If you told a 15 year old, "if you smoke this it is going to screw up the rest of your life", chances are they would not care.

It's not that they don't care, it's that they know better.

Smoking pot doesn't automatically ruin your life.

Imagine if I pulled a 15yo kid to the side and said, "You know drinking soda IS going to screw up your life!". You know they'd laugh, right?

This is because use does not equal abuse, and it's abuse of drugs that causes problems.

Now if you were honest about it and said "You know drinking soda everyday all the time for like 20 years might give you diabetes and screw up your life" it'd be more credible. The kid might brush it off, but at least you were honest with him/her and what you said will be backed up by other honest information they hear.

Saying IT WILL SCREW UP YOUR LIFE is reefer madness, not realistic or reasonable, and not backed up by any facts.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yes, he really is comparing college young adults with high school teens/young adults.

Brain development continues well into the 20's.

http://www.news-medical.net/news/20...nt-does-not-stop-at-adolescence-Research.aspx

Busted link

 

[alzan]

Busted link

Hmm, works for me. (IE 11)

 

[bshole]

Small study with interesting results. The study group was only 40 people.

Using an MRI, the teenagers who used the most weed showed the greatest changes in brain development.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/...-linked-with-brain-abnormalities-study-finds/



The more weed a teenager smokes, the less motivated they may be later in life.

I wonder if this helps explain why so many people from Gen Y are still at mom and dads house in their mid to late 20s? Spending their teenage years smoking weed and playing video games may have caused long term damage.

See, I think drugs have done some *good* things for us, I really do. And if you don’t believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a Favor: go home tonight and take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your CDs and burn ‘em. ‘Cause you know what? The musician’s who made all that great music that’s enhanced your lives throughout the years… Rrrrrrrrrrrrreal fuckin high on drugs.

Kevin Smith, director, screenwriter, and actor, credits his discovery of marijuana with helping him climb out of a creative rut after a slew of film failures.

Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys claims that smoking weed helped him write the massively acclaimed album Pet Sounds.

Alanis Morissette smokes weed regularly when writing music.

 

[Texashiker]

See, I think drugs have done some *good* things for us, I really do. And if you don’t believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a Favor: go home tonight and take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your CDs and burn ‘em. ‘Cause you know what? The musician’s who made all that great music that’s enhanced your lives throughout the years… Rrrrrrrrrrrrreal fuckin high on drugs.

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Do you have reading comprehension problems?

Linked article in the opening post is about young people with still developing minds and not adults.

 

[alzan]

Do you have reading comprehension problems?

Linked article in the opening post is about young people with still developing minds and not adults.

Per mine and norseamd's posts, brain development extends well beyond the teens, 20's and 30's.

Maybe you should try not using just one source for a thread topic.

 

[Jhhnn]

Per mine and norseamd's posts, brain development extends well beyond the teens, 20's and 30's.

Maybe you should try not using just one source for a thread topic.

And there's no evidence to establish that cannabis has a deletorious effect on more mature brains in those links, either.

It runs counter to experience, as well. Pot smokers now live at all levels of society & success, have for decades.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

This is such a steaming crock of shit. The next time you use science to argue any point you make, remember it can be bought just like this was.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

brain development continues all your life well past your 30s

as you get older you start to make decisions quicker based on previous experience

For a high percentage of the population the brain development stopped around the age of 5 or 6.

 

[hans030390]

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