Marijuana more than 100x less lethal than alcohol

[z1ggy]

I don't fuk with weed anymore. tickled my psychotic side after some time

...go on.

 

[Naer]

...go on.

started hearing voices, became delusional like I had to save the world proactively was against the war. Ended up in a psych ward under bush. Was an intense time. Guess you can say I won't be toking again...

 

[Markbnj]

started hearing voices, became delusional like I had to save the world proactively was against the war. Ended up in a psych ward under bush. Was an intense time. Guess you can say I won't be toking again...

Yes, yes, but what happened _after_ you smoked pot?

 

[qliveur]

started hearing voices, became delusional like I had to save the world proactively was against the war. Ended up in a psych ward under bush. Was an intense time. Guess you can say I won't be toking again...

Marijuana's not going to do that to most people.

LSD on the other hand...

 

[disappoint]

Pot should be legalized and sold with a generic warning label like cigarettes are. People that want to are going to gobble this stuff up anyway, so let them. Something like "May cause cognitive impairment, don't operate heavy machinery, use responsibly...blah blah" And then tax the hell out of it like cigs, alcohol or fuel for cars to pay for roads even though most roads are a mess. Or like gambling (the lottery) which is 100% tax and is used to pay for children's education, even though most of it really doesn't go to education at all. Because even though they may say think of the children, they don't really mean it they just want to fill their own pockets with mean green reefer cash.

 

[Naer]

Yes, yes, but what happened _after_ you smoked pot?

this didn't happen right away. I was a happy stoner, but then things turned sour eventually I thew myself to a hospital. Things became too much. I thought I could build something out of nothing, but it didn't happen that way. I needed help

 

[disappoint]

this didn't happen right away. I was a happy stoner, but then things turned sour eventually I thew myself to a hospital. Things became too much. I thought I could build something out of nothing, but it didn't happen that way. I needed help

So were they able to help you?

 

[moonbogg]

Wedd will fuck with you and make you weird

 

[TechBoyJK]

Less lethal but still lethal.

Marijuana is less lethal than water.

 

[Naer]

So were they able to help you?

yes tho at the time I was delusional and didn't feel like I had to be there. But things are better now. I don't chase a high anymore. take vitamin+5htp+phenibut at night. Feels better

 

[TechBoyJK]

That's funny, I can pull up several articles that say the contrary like this one:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...colorado-dui-recreational-marijuana/11391053/

People should not be driving. How can you put any statistical significance from studies from one state, when the legislation is in its infancy unlike the prohibition on alcohol that ended over a half century ago?

In reality, like alcohol, there are going to be dumb people who make dumb decisions. They're going to OD's, over use, and abuse . They will cause accidents, they will lose people's jobs, and they'll likely end up killing someone innocent in the process. My point is, this decision is not as black and white as it appears.

To a normal, rational human being some of us, legalizing weed for general use might sound plausible or feasible. Though I cannot turn my nose up from the harsh reality that we cannot trust other people to be responsible with it. People who do not take the full weight of the consequences of legalizing a product just asking for abuse, are people who do not take such decisions seriously.

I can't give a definite answer if I think it should be legalized or not. Though I do remember it becoming illegal for a reason. Nixon? Why blame him? He might of championed a social movement, but that decision was mostly the public response to it. Don't keep blaming politicians for a "government of the people" who only go out and vote when it seems fit to them.

You lost me at 'od on marijuana'; and I'm completely jumping ship after your failed link.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I drink alcohol and that is probably killing me faster as compared to smoking weed so I won't argue about that point.

I could care less if they legalize it or not. I won't lose any sleep if they do not. I will never encourage it for anyone and try to tell loved ones to stop smoking it. Also, I don't want your stoner butt smoking it near me either.

My agenda is that I could care less about legalization of weed. Yes, I am bad for drinking alcohol but smelling legal ciggs or weed being smoked near me annoys the hell out of me.

You may not want to smoke it, that's absolutely your decision. But legaliziation isn't about that... it's about a freedom that should have never been taken away. I don't know where you live or what your values are. But even if you don't want anything to do with marijuana you should see the corruption that made it illegal and how the laws destroy lives of many otherwise productive citizens.

I'm hardly a stoner... but have experienced it first hand. It isn't the evil thing the government has tried to portray it as for decades now. I have a job, a mortgage, dogs, and a kid... I'm a normal citizen who works and pays taxes. Marijuana never got in the way of that. I know people who do smoke regularly, and they also are productive members of society.

I don't want your drunk ass around me. See how that works? A lot of assuming...

 

[TechBoyJK]

Wedd will fuck with you and make you weird

so will monopoly if you play it every single fucking night for 30 years.

 

[Markbnj]

I was shaking my head at regs

Ah right, the poster who countered an NIH paper with a USA Today article. Carry on then.

 

[Markbnj]

Wedd will fuck with you and make you weird

Is that the explanation in your case, or was it something else?

 

[moonbogg]

so will monopoly if you play it every single fucking night for 30 years.

No dude, young teens are susceptible to getting their mind messed with. It happened to me. Pot induced depression and anxiety from hell. It was so bad I actually developed a legit phobia of weed. I tried smoking it again years later and it made me feel the same way. It was legit PTSD and smoking it was a harsh flashback of mental anguish. I'm ok now though. Its what they told me. You just can't know unless you really fucking know.

 

[qliveur]

Again, no is advocating that teens use the stuff.

 

[SlowSpyder]

No dude, young teens are susceptible to getting their mind messed with. It happened to me. Pot induced depression and anxiety from hell. It was so bad I actually developed a legit phobia of weed. I tried smoking it again years later and it made me feel the same way. It was legit PTSD and smoking it was a harsh flashback of mental anguish. I'm ok now though. Its what they told me. You just can't know unless you really fucking know.

It would only be legalized for adults. No one wants 13 year old kids smoking pot.

 

[manimal]

No dude, young teens are susceptible to getting their mind messed with. It happened to me. Pot induced depression and anxiety from hell. It was so bad I actually developed a legit phobia of weed. I tried smoking it again years later and it made me feel the same way. It was legit PTSD and smoking it was a harsh flashback of mental anguish. I'm ok now though. Its what they told me. You just can't know unless you really fucking know.

its not for everybody.



anecdotally they have been using mj and psylocybin and even acid to tread PTSD and I always wondered if people who had bad trips had some shit to work out they were hiding from. Sometimes the walls get stripped away and you cant handle the truth

 

[TechBoyJK]

No dude, young teens are susceptible to getting their mind messed with. It happened to me. Pot induced depression and anxiety from hell. It was so bad I actually developed a legit phobia of weed. I tried smoking it again years later and it made me feel the same way. It was legit PTSD and smoking it was a harsh flashback of mental anguish. I'm ok now though. Its what they told me. You just can't know unless you really fucking know.

Young teens are susceptible to getting their minds messed with. Absolutely. This isn't pot's fault, it's that these teens are still developing. A reclusive, sober teen who plays WOW all day and night will have issues too.

It's all about moderation and appropriate use.

 

[Vdubchaos]

I drink alcohol and that is probably killing me faster as compared to smoking weed so I won't argue about that point.

I could care less if they legalize it or not. I won't lose any sleep if they do not. I will never encourage it for anyone and try to tell loved ones to stop smoking it. Also, I don't want your stoner butt smoking it near me either.

My agenda is that I could care less about legalization of weed. Yes, I am bad for drinking alcohol but smelling legal ciggs or weed being smoked near me annoys the hell out of me.

I would encourage anyone to not drink, especially loved ones.

WAY more so than any weed.......even mexican hehe

 

[Squisher]

I must have ODed on Marijuana because I woke up with half chewed Doritos in my mouth.

 

[nakedfrog]

I must have ODed on Marijuana because I woke up with half chewed Doritos in my mouth.

THAT'S where I left them! Damn it. Sorry about that.

Uh, you can keep them now.

 

[disappoint]

I must have ODed on Marijuana because I woke up with half chewed Doritos in my mouth.

It's the half chewed ones that will really get ya. The completely chewed one's are far safer than the half chewed ones. I'm all for the legalization of completely chewed Doritos primarily for that reason.

I wouldn't fault you for thinking I was voted most likely to reason in high school.

 

[moonbogg]

Young teens are susceptible to getting their minds messed with. Absolutely. This isn't pot's fault, it's that these teens are still developing. A reclusive, sober teen who plays WOW all day and night will have issues too.

It's all about moderation and appropriate use.

Yeah that's true. But when a young person doesn't understand the dangers because all they hear from their friends is that "weed is safe" then its easy to overdo it. Then you start feeling a little down for "no reason" so you smoke some weed to make you happy, since it always worked before. Then it works a little, and you keep doing that and find yourself in a downward spiral, but you never suspect the weed so you don't know what's happening.
Do you have any idea just how severe depression and anxiety can be? I will take the liberty of explaining, because this is something people can't understand or relate to unless they experience it.

Your anxiety is not something you simply feel, because at that point there is no longer a "you". The emotional pain and stress is so severe, combined with intense feelings of self consciousness, that your mind starts to dissociate itself from reality. People are judging you and you are subhuman, like a deformed animal locked in a cage for all the world to view and laugh at. You can feel their judgments cover your body and it starts to suffocate you. You start to sweat, beads of sweat dripping down your ugly, discolored, disfigured inhuman face and they see this and SCREAM to themselves, "OMG he's dripping something WTH is wrong with him!" and you shrink away into a tiny mental cube of nothingness.
If you are on the school bus during this time, you actually forget where you are going. You forget what you are supposed to do when you get there. You forget that you have friends and family and you completely forget anything good about yourself. The fear occupies your entire mental existence and leaves room for no positive thought.
You look at the ground, always. You walk down the halls at school, looking down at your feet and you get out of everyone's way as if they are going to kill you. Even the most shy, timid young girl is terrifying to you. Everyone is terrifying to you. Just look down, don't say anything, and get out of their way and try not to let them see how bad you are sweating.
You become an instinctive animal, abandoned on a strange planet and the natives are poking you with sticks and laughing at you. You feel disconnected from being a human. You can no longer relate to your former self. You are different and lost, completely disconnected. You forgot what it used to feel like to be you. You forgot what kinds of thoughts you used to have and you forgot what things you used to do for fun.
You look at other people as they smile and laugh, and you are puzzled and jealous. You see someone shake hands and you wish you could be capable of such a casual social interaction, but you are not. You don't deserve a hand shake. Hand shakes and smiles are for the privileged people, the normal people, and the people who you wish you could be like. You want to shake hands with someone? Who are you kidding? Don't be an idiot. Just go home and smoke some weed. Maybe you'll get a few minutes of relief if you survive the day at school.

Yes, weed did that to me. I wasn't like that before smoking weed, and after stopping the weed, the depression and anxiety lifted in less than a year's time and I was back to normal. It never returned and my ass is fucking sober today.

So, next time you see a young person who is looking down at the ground and seems "a little depressed" keep in mind that you have no idea what kind of literal hell they may be experiencing. You don't know the level of pain the mind can experience until you've experienced it. And for fuck's sake, weed might not kill you directly, but it is NOT safe.

Oh yeah, also...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=x7COuZLQ5z8#t=13