Marijuana more than 100x less lethal than alcohol

z1ggy

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I believe it. I'd also imagine that less violence occurs from pot usage than alcohol or other drugs. Don't remember the last time somebody smoked pot then beat the shit out of their wife or kids, or started a fight with some guy from "looking at my chick" the wrong way.
 

TechBoyJK

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While I'm pro pot, and enjoy it myself; lethality really isn't the concern. I know it won't kill me; I know moderate use is fine.

What is concerning though are the potential mental health consequences of unhinged, irresponsible long term use. That's something that should be looked at more closely.

I think though, much of the paranoia and fear that a user experiences is due to legality and the consequences. When I toked in Colorado, it was a different experience because I didn't fear the law. I realized littering in the park was a significantly greater crime than smoking weed. At that point, I felt a burden lifted because I didn't have that 'what if I get caught' anxiety in the back of my mind.
 

z1ggy

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PS waiting for FelixDeCat to come in and tell us pot is terrible and we are all doomed.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Was lethality ever the issue?

Nobody really knows what the issue was supposed to be. Nixon had a bug up his ass about pot because all the people that hated him were pot smokers, so his paranoid little mind saw that as the symbol of the opposition. He wanted to ban pot to get back at everyone who was mean to him and commissioned a study to show how dangerous it was to provide an excuse. The study came back that it wasn't all that dangerous and he banned it anyway.
 

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While I'm pro pot, and enjoy it myself; lethality really isn't the concern.

Ultimately I don't think the point is about what is or isn't concerning. It's about what justifies putting people in jail for making a personal choice of intoxicants. Irresponsible use of alcohol has extraordinarily serious long-term mental and physical consequences that are not even debated. They're clearly and unequivocally demonstrated daily. Yet you will only be put in jail if one of those consequences causes you to do damage to another person or their property.
 

z1ggy

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But if it was legal, how could we keep the War on Drugs alive and well? :( come on now, think of the Feds!
 

SlowSpyder

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i'm against legalization, but cause i don't want to inhale that 2nd hand shit.


Why would you have to inhale second hand smoke? Also, marijuana smoke is not harmful to your body. Still, I agree, you shouldn't have to ingest something you don't want to ingest. But, I don't see why you would have to..?
 

SlowSpyder

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And for the record, on topic of the OP, I'd be surprised if marijuana was really 100x less lethal than alcohol. I bet it is far less lethal than that.
 

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And for the record, on topic of the OP, I'd be surprised if marijuana was really 100x less lethal than alcohol. I bet it is far less lethal than that.

Well the tagline was "over 100x." I just ran with that. You're right that the factor is actually much greater for most of the substances.
 

SlowSpyder

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Less lethal but still lethal.


How so exactly?

Roads appear to be safer.

Since marijuana legalization, highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows

No link to cancer.

The study does not reveal how marijuana avoids causing cancer. Tashkin speculates that perhaps the THC chemical in marijuana smoke prompts aging cells to die before becoming cancerous. Tashkin and his colleagues presented the findings yesterday at a meeting of the American Thoracic Society in San Diego

Not linked to lung damage...

Marijuana smokers performed better on tests of lung function compared to nonsmokers and cigarette smokers

Perhaps even a protective effect on the lungs...

"We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."


At this point you have to be ignorant or have an agenda to believe this plant should be illegal.
 
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SlowSpyder

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To be fair:

Water is also lethal. So is oxygen. And bubble wrap.


Absolutely. Anything can kill you. But in light of what freedoms we have that carry far more risk than marijuana, it shouldn't be illegal. How many lives have been ruined because someone wanted to smoke a joint after work or had a sack of weed on them and got caught? Non-violent contributing members of society have had their lives ruined over something that should have never been made illegal in the first place.
 

Vdubchaos

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This article should prove to EVERYONE how blind and stupid our society is. For this article to come out in 2015 is just beyond absurd. And for it to get that much publicity at this point and time is just crazy.

People don't deal with REALITIES, our society chooses constantly to deal with ACT and "Pretty painted pictures" that are quite opposite of reality. Almost as if we choose to numb the pain with BS.

Welcome to America.
 

SlowSpyder

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This article should prove to EVERYONE how blind and stupid our society is.

People don't deal with REALITIES, our society chooses constantly to deal with ACT and "Pretty painted pictures" that are quite opposite of reality. Almost as if we choose to numb the pain with BS.

Welcome to America.


"A person is smart, people are dumb."

People work on emotion more than logic, for better or worse.