Marijuana may stave off Alzheimer's

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tweakmm

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Originally posted by: j00fek
Originally posted by: acegazda
Just another excuse to get high. ;)
Seriously, you'll have so many problems when you start smoking that it'll be worse than having alzhiemers.

id like to know "these other problems"
Inceased fascination with Winamp visualizations
Decreased Dorito and cookie supplies
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Marijuana can impair your short-term memory if smoked/used frequently, no?
Can you repeat the question? :p

But seriously short term memory loss is about the only negative aspect to bud usage.
 

j00fek

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: j00fek
Originally posted by: acegazda
Just another excuse to get high. ;)
Seriously, you'll have so many problems when you start smoking that it'll be worse than having alzhiemers.

id like to know "these other problems"
Inceased fascination with Winamp visualizations
Decreased Dorito and cookie supplies

:laugh:
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: acegazda
Just another excuse to get high. ;)
Seriously, you'll have so many problems when you start smoking that it'll be worse than having alzhiemers.

I had the "pleasure" of watching my Grandfather lose everything from Alzhiemers. He ran a fairly large business. he was active in poltics and local sporting events for seniors. the man faught in WWII and graduated college.

in the end he coldnt even remember his name. He thought my father was a friend of his from the Army. he had no idea who anyone in the family was (though he did remember me kinda). he was violent at times because he thought he was still in Europe fighting the Germans.

There is very few things worse then having alzheimers and i fvcking gurentee the small effects that can happen from pot are not even close.

i should state i am very anti-drug. I have tried pot at 14 but was not impressed so never did it again. None of my friends do any drugs. we do not smoke and live a clean lifestyle.
but if pot can help someone keep alztimers away then i will gladly buy them a bong.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Chunkee
Puff the Magic Dragon lived by the sea....

growing up that was my favorite song to sing. once i found out what it was about it made it even better to sing in public!
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: ch33zw1z
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
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for medical purposes only. I can't see this being legal for people to just smoke. Just what we need, potheads smoking that stuff in public, cigarettes are nasty enough.


the government perscribes marijuana to 7 patients nationwide, saw it on Penn & Teller Bullsh!t series and was surprised myself....and yes, they can smoke it in public.

At least there's no cancer causing additives in it..

Do you mean nationwide there are 7 people prescribed to use it, or that the government, acting as a doctor has it prescribed to 7 people? Because in San Francisco alone there are a shtload of people that have access to legal weed.
 

40Hands

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: ch33zw1z
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
:roll:

for medical purposes only. I can't see this being legal for people to just smoke. Just what we need, potheads smoking that stuff in public, cigarettes are nasty enough.


the government perscribes marijuana to 7 patients nationwide, saw it on Penn & Teller Bullsh!t series and was surprised myself....and yes, they can smoke it in public.

At least there's no cancer causing additives in it..

Do you mean nationwide there are 7 people prescribed to use it, or that the government, acting as a doctor has it prescribed to 7 people? Because in San Francisco alone there are a shtload of people that have access to legal weed.


I am willing to bet in the governments mind they are breaking federal law even if it is legal in their state.
 

ElFenix

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New research shows that the active ingredient in marijuana may prevent the progression of the disease by preserving levels of an important neurotransmitter that allows the brain to function.
well no crap because it obviously isn't in use when you're smoking the hippie lettuce
 

ch33zw1z

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: ch33zw1z
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
:roll:

for medical purposes only. I can't see this being legal for people to just smoke. Just what we need, potheads smoking that stuff in public, cigarettes are nasty enough.


the government perscribes marijuana to 7 patients nationwide, saw it on Penn & Teller Bullsh!t series and was surprised myself....and yes, they can smoke it in public.

At least there's no cancer causing additives in it..

Do you mean nationwide there are 7 people prescribed to use it, or that the government, acting as a doctor has it prescribed to 7 people? Because in San Francisco alone there are a shtload of people that have access to legal weed.

I mean Federally perscribed...not State. Even though it's legal w/ a perscription in the State of California, you can still be prosecuted on a Federal level...that's why the marijuana farms for medicinal marijuana still must be hidden.

I have thought about moving to CA just for that reason. I suffer severe chronic migraines. I found MJ when I was almost 20, and it helps kill both the pain and intense nausea from the migraines...but doctors here will not perscribe it, even though i've explained to them how much it can help, not to mention it's waaaaay cheaper than the scrips I am able to get.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
cigarettes are nasty enough.
Dude, pot smoke is 1,000,000 times better than cigarette smoke.
Not really true, there is a lot of tar in weed smoke, BUT:

Two tiny but good hits on a chillum vs. 40 full 100mm cigarettes daily with all the know carcinegens (sic), the two pack-day ciggie smoker's "reality"?

Even stoned on my ass I could easily assess which might be more harmful to your health.

 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
cigarettes are nasty enough.
Dude, pot smoke is 1,000,000 times better than cigarette smoke.
Not really true, there is a lot of tar in weed smoke, BUT:

Two tiny but good hits on a chillum vs. 40 full 100mm cigarettes daily with all the know carcinegens (sic), the two pack-day ciggie smoker's "reality"?

Even stoned on my ass I could easily assess which might be more harmful to your health.
I meant smell wise.

But in regards to lung damage, there are cannabinols in marijuana smoke that are powerful anti-oxidants. One will still get upper respiratory infections and the like from inhaling burnt carbon, but at least the sticky icky doesn't lead to cancer.
You are quite right about the differences in amount used though. Plus there are ways to imbibe that don't require a flame.
 

DanTMWTMP

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http://cannabis.net/brain/marijuana.html <---EXCELLENT read. The truth about the chemical behind marijuana, and gives a good explanation on the cellular level on why we feel the way we do when we use marijuana.

It's a chemical that is naturally synthesized within the brain, just that Marijuana's chemical (THC) binds onto some nueral cell's CB1 receptor.

It gave me new insight on the chemical, and it can be isolated, and medically produced to be effective.
 

newParadigm

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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
:roll:

for medical purposes only. I can't see this being legal for people to just smoke. Just what we need, potheads smoking that stuff in public, cigarettes are nasty enough.

Get off your fvckin soapbox.
 

newParadigm

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Originally posted by: ch33zw1z
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Of course. . .cuz it makes you so ****** brain dead, nobody notices your alzheimers.


someone watches too may government funded commercials :p

Seriously. I'm getting sick of the frying egg=your brain on drugs. Maybe some drugs will do that, but not most, especially not MaryJ.
 

newParadigm

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Originally posted by: acegazda
Just another excuse to get high. ;)
Seriously, you'll have so many problems when you start smoking that it'll be worse than having alzhiemers.

How would a senior citizen that has alzhemiers (so they abviously already have little to no responsability) have so many more problems?


Originally posted by: ch33zw1z
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: ch33zw1z
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Of course. . .cuz it makes you so ****** brain dead, nobody notices your alzheimers.


someone watches too may government funded commercials :p

War on drugs is profitable as hell for law enforcement. So much of our criminal justice system is tied up with drug-related offenses. The government would do well to hype up how bad marijuana is, because then they can maintain public outcry against it, which only continues to justify the war on drugs.

I don't really see how it is profitable, it consumes resources that could be better utilized elsewhere, costs us tax payers billions a year, and creates criminals where there are none.

Not every drug in the same, thus should not be treated as such.

I believe that was sarcasm....
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: acegazda
Just another excuse to get high. ;)
Seriously, you'll have so many problems when you start smoking that it'll be worse than having alzhiemers.

I had the "pleasure" of watching my Grandfather lose everything from Alzhiemers. He ran a fairly large business. he was active in poltics and local sporting events for seniors. the man faught in WWII and graduated college.

in the end he coldnt even remember his name. He thought my father was a friend of his from the Army. he had no idea who anyone in the family was (though he did remember me kinda). he was violent at times because he thought he was still in Europe fighting the Germans.

There is very few things worse then having alzheimers and i fvcking gurentee the small effects that can happen from pot are not even close.

i should state i am very anti-drug. I have tried pot at 14 but was not impressed so never did it again. None of my friends do any drugs. we do not smoke and live a clean lifestyle.
but if pot can help someone keep alztimers away then i will gladly buy them a bong.

Yes, Alzheimer's sucks. My great grandmother, on my father's side, she wound up basically raising my dad from when he was a little kid. By the time she was near death, she did not know who he was. They had spent so much good time together, but in the end, she could not remember any of it.
Now, my grandfather, he is forgetful. He might call us, but then forget what he was calling about. Or he'll forget about other fairly minor things, like when a TV show is on, or where he placed something. But I think it's just memory loss, not outright Alzheimer's. He doesn't forget people, or anything major. And he knows that he's forgetful too, and he often laughs about it, usually saying, "Getting old isn't always fun. Don't get old.":)

Compare those two - if marijuana would prevent Alzheimer's and only cause short-term memory loss like my own grandfather shows, I think anyone would much rather have that. Short term memories can be remade quickly: if you forgot where you left your cordless phone, you can find it. If you call someone but don't remember why, you'll probably figure it out. But if you can't remember your own children, or where you live, it can just be devastating to everyone involved. Those are the memories which cannot be remade. It is best to give up what is trivial to save what really matters.


Originally posted by: newParadigm
Originally posted by: acegazda
Just another excuse to get high. ;)
Seriously, you'll have so many problems when you start smoking that it'll be worse than having alzhiemers.

How would a senior citizen that has alzhemiers (so they abviously already have little to no responsability) have so many more problems?


Originally posted by: ch33zw1z
Originally posted by: Jeff7
War on drugs is profitable as hell for law enforcement. So much of our criminal justice system is tied up with drug-related offenses. The government would do well to hype up how bad marijuana is, because then they can maintain public outcry against it, which only continues to justify the war on drugs.

I don't really see how it is profitable, it consumes resources that could be better utilized elsewhere, costs us tax payers billions a year, and creates criminals where there are none.

Not every drug in the same, thus should not be treated as such.

I believe that was sarcasm....
Only partially.
It's like the fight against spam or computer viruses. If TCP/IP and POP3 could magically be upgraded to make transmission of spam and computer viruses impossible, antispam and antivirus companies would be out of business. They wouldn't want that. They would fight the technology.
Similarly, if marijuana were suddenly made legal, look at what it could do. A fair number of law enforcement workers could be out of jobs. If you have 100 crimes and 10 officers in an area, and 40 of those crimes are for posession of marijuana, 4 of those officers won't have anything to do. Prosecuting for drug offenses - lawyers would see a downswing in business. And those who are in jail for marijuana-related offenses could want to sue for wrongful imprisonment (so maybe the lawyers, like roaches, would survive this bombdrop).
The war on drugs is like any other war - it can be incredibly profitable for a specific group of people. Military wars are profitable for those who sell weaponry, and those who own construction companies for post-war rebuilding. The war on drugs is profitable for law enforcement, and ultimately, for dealers - risk goes up, price goes up.
 

MikeMike

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<-- is wishing his parents werent home right now so he could help stave off alzheimers.
 

Journer

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
<-- is wishing his parents werent home right now so he could help stave off alzheimers.

bwahahah

how the hell do you keep the place smelling normal?
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Journer
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
<-- is wishing his parents werent home right now so he could help stave off alzheimers.

bwahahah

how the hell do you keep the place smelling normal?

its called, the outside.