march 11th no GX2?

error8

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I don't really understand why are you waiting for this card. If you are in a hurry, you can always buy two 9600 GT's or 2X 8800 GT's , and SLI, and you have roughly the same performance of the GX2. I might be mean, but I hate when Nvidia doesn't have a good high end card, and takes two mid-range cards, glues them together and a GX2 is born.

The same thing happened with the 7950GX2, which was matching and beating one x1950XTX. Nvidia didn't stood a chance in front of that ATI monster, but they got the solution to glue two slow videocards together, and treat them like it was one, and YES baby, the monster has been defeated.
 

error8

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If he has 600$ to spend on a video card, I'm sure that he has a SLI capable motherboard. ;) Anyways, I still hate the GX2 concept.
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: error8
I don't really understand why are you waiting for this card. If you are in a hurry, you can always buy two 9600 GT's or 2X 8800 GT's , and SLI, and you have roughly the same performance of the GX2. I might be mean, but I hate when Nvidia doesn't have a good high end card, and takes two mid-range cards, glues them together and a GX2 is born.

The same thing happened with the 7950GX2, which was matching and beating one x1950XTX. Nvidia didn't stood a chance in front of that ATI monster, but they got the solution to glue two slow videocards together, and treat them like it was one, and YES baby, the monster has been defeated.

Little different than back then... NVIDIA has a few cards that beat ATI's best single GPU card. 8800Ulta/GTX/GTS/GT > HD3870
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: error8
I don't really understand why are you waiting for this card. If you are in a hurry, you can always buy two 9600 GT's or 2X 8800 GT's , and SLI, and you have roughly the same performance of the GX2. I might be mean, but I hate when Nvidia doesn't have a good high end card, and takes two mid-range cards, glues them together and a GX2 is born.

The same thing happened with the 7950GX2, which was matching and beating one x1950XTX. Nvidia didn't stood a chance in front of that ATI monster, but they got the solution to glue two slow videocards together, and treat them like it was one, and YES baby, the monster has been defeated.

Little different than back then... NVIDIA has a few cards that beat ATI's best single GPU card. 8800Ulta/GTX/GTS/GT > HD3870

You could add the 9600GT to that list for some games.

 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: error8
I might be mean, but I hate when ATi doesn't have a good high end card, and takes two mid-range cards, glues them together and a MAXX is born.

The same thing happened with the 3870X2, which was matching and beating one 8800GTX. ATi didn't stood a chance in front of that NVIDIA monster, but they got the solution to glue two slow videocards together, and treat them like it was one, and YES baby, the monster has been defeated.

Hmmm, that works just as well in reverse!

BTW- I'm not posting this to be argumentative, just as illustrative AMD and NVIDIA use multi-GPU solutions and likely always will to some extent. 3DFX used to as well- there's no shame in it.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: nRollo
Originally posted by: apoppin


Who really cares about this over-priced and *stop gap* curiosity?

I bet AMD does, even if you don't Apoppin'.
;)

nonsense .. AMD is laughing at GX2 .. and they ARE sorry for the sales they will lose ... poor unwitting NVIDIA fans .. bamboozled again by slick repackaged PR
--AMD is on their OWN time table unlike NVIDIA
-AMD is *racing* to bring out r700 - ASAP!!!

Why is NVIDIA introducing a *stop gap* card to milk consumers when they could JUST as EASILY release GT200?
:confused:

it looks "bad" when NVIDIA is perceived as "waiting to answer" r700 :p
 

Sutareteiru

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well the main reason why I am looking into the card is, everything we know about benchmarks and testing is without proper drivers and nothing really"official". Also im asking about the release date, not to buy, but to check out actual in-game testing through websites when they get theirs to play with. My motherboard is a P5k-e/wifi, so no SLI unfortunatly, and I also am sporting an 8800gt i bought for $280 about 2 months ago through evga, so the upgrade might be worth it for me to just do the stepup program, so basically im just checking out my options.
 

batmang

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I'm more anxious to see the R700 cards. I'm writing off the 9800 series for now.
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: nRollo
Originally posted by: apoppin


Who really cares about this over-priced and *stop gap* curiosity?

I bet AMD does, even if you don't Apoppin'.
;)

nonsense .. AMD is laughing at GX2 .. and they ARE sorry for the sales they will lose ... poor unwitting NVIDIA fans .. bamboozled again by slick repackaged PR
--AMD is on their OWN time table unlike NVIDIA
-AMD is *racing* to bring out r700 - ASAP!!!

Why is NVIDIA introducing a *stop gap* card to milk consumers when they could JUST as EASILY release GT200?
:confused:

it looks "bad" when NVIDIA is perceived as "waiting to answer" r700 :p

Hmmm.
Even though you used capital letters Apoppin, I don't think we can take your word the GT200 is ready to ship and being stock piled in top secret warehouses.

Does it "look bad" when AMD releases the 3870X2 dual GPU, AFR card to milk consumers when they could have waited a few months and released the R700?

As far as AMD "racing" and NVIDIA "responding" it's all just your speculation based on rumors. You don't have any real information.





 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: nRollo
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: nRollo
Originally posted by: apoppin


Who really cares about this over-priced and *stop gap* curiosity?

I bet AMD does, even if you don't Apoppin'.
;)

nonsense .. AMD is laughing at GX2 .. and they ARE sorry for the sales they will lose ... poor unwitting NVIDIA fans .. bamboozled again by slick repackaged PR
--AMD is on their OWN time table unlike NVIDIA
-AMD is *racing* to bring out r700 - ASAP!!!

Why is NVIDIA introducing a *stop gap* card to milk consumers when they could JUST as EASILY release GT200?
:confused:

it looks "bad" when NVIDIA is perceived as "waiting to answer" r700 :p

Hmmm.
Even though you used capital letters Apoppin, I don't think we can take your word the GT200 is ready to ship and being stock piled in top secret warehouses.

Does it "look bad" when AMD releases the 3870X2 dual GPU, AFR card to milk consumers when they could have waited a few months and released the R700?

As far as AMD "racing" and NVIDIA "responding" it's all just your speculation based on rumors. You don't have any real information.

evidently you don't either :p

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2164918&enterthread=y

You are cordially invited to the real discussion
:cookie:
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: apoppin


evidently you don't either :p

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2164918&enterthread=y

You are cordially invited to the real discussion
:cookie:

I'd be the first to admit I don't have GT200 information, and the first to admit web rumours are often wrong. <remembers the 32 ROP world destroying, released Q4 2006, R600 rumors>

The "real discussion" so far amounts to you posting your rumors and speculation, and Jaredpace posting "You're right Apoppin, GX2 will suck".

I think I'll pass. :) :beer:

 

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To me, none of the 9800 cards are interesting at all. The 9800GX2 will be the fastest single card available, but the heat/power is going to be tremendous and at ~$600, way overpriced. SLI 8800GTS 512MB cost around $450 today, and I guarantee they will overclock better.

9800GTX is just pathetic... 675MHz core/2200MHz memory? That's a 3.8% core increase and a 13.4% mem increase over the 8800GTS 512MB. In many situations, the 9800GTX will be slower than the 8800GTX, not even considering the 8800 Ultra. It's pretty hard to consider that... nVidia is actually releasing a 9800GTX that will be equal to or slower than the previous 8800GTX, and it won't be any cheaper either.

8800GTS 512MB looks most tempting right now... but I've said to myself that I'm not upgrading until I can get a card with at least 50% better performance than my 8800GT. No sense of upgrading to another card if it won't help me play Crysis better.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: nRollo
Originally posted by: apoppin


evidently you don't either :p

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2164918&enterthread=y

You are cordially invited to the real discussion
:cookie:

I'd be the first to admit I don't have GT200 information, and the first to admit web rumours are often wrong. <remembers the 32 ROP world destroying, released Q4 2006, R600 rumors>

The "real discussion" so far amounts to you posting your rumors and speculation, and Jaredpace posting "You're right Apoppin, GX2 will suck".

I think I'll pass. :) :beer:

that's what i thought .. you only post "NVIDIA PR" and are not up for the challenge anymore

no prob .. you can attempt to IGNORE that it is not "my rumors" nor is it my speculation


http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7472.html

NVIDIA "GT200" is pretty much ready, FPU monster ahoy?
Written by Andreas G 09 March 2008 10:53

More than a few NVIDIA partners have been revealing information about the upcoming "GT200" chip from NVIDIA. The G8x architectures has been with us for an extremely long time, and with the G9x refresh, NVIDIA has had more time than ever to complete the true next generation architecture, known as both "G100" and "GT200". Apparently, NVIDIA has been working hard because the story is that NVIDIA could present its next architecture any day now, if it wanted to, but instead it's going to keep riding the G92 wave until AMD is ready to launch the R7x series.

The only kind of information about the performance that has leaked was posted by German HT4U.net, which stated that GT200 would sport twice the FPU performance of G92. This doesn't say much about the actual performance though, but we would be very surprised if GT200 doesn't stand up to R7x.

How is your German?
http://www.ht4u.net/news/1488_...den_gt200_in_den_markt

http://forum.beyond3d.com/show...=1136515&postcount=767

as i said the REAL DISCUSSION will be here:

G200 is apparently *already* taped out!!
 

dileepsv

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Originally posted by: error8
I don't really understand why are you waiting for this card. If you are in a hurry, you can always buy two 9600 GT's or 2X 8800 GT's , and SLI, and you have roughly the same performance of the GX2. I might be mean, but I hate when Nvidia doesn't have a good high end card, and takes two mid-range cards, glues them together and a GX2 is born.

The same thing happened with the 7950GX2, which was matching and beating one x1950XTX. Nvidia didn't stood a chance in front of that ATI monster, but they got the solution to glue two slow videocards together, and treat them like it was one, and YES baby, the monster has been defeated.

i wonder wat ATI did with their latest card? thats not called gluing together to beat one 8800 gtx ultra? one big monster beaten..so nvidia does the same..i think its fair that we saw..nothing will beat 2x 9800s in sli eh?
 

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I was actually thinking of getting a EVGA 9600GT Superclock for now and then step-up later to something better, maybe a 9800GT or GTS (if it does come out).

Wonder if the 9800GX2 is really a 8800GTS 512MB x2.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: dileepsv

i wonder wat ATI did with their latest card? thats not called gluing together to beat one 8800 gtx ultra? one big monster beaten..so nvidia does the same..i think its fair that we saw..nothing will beat 2x 9800s in sli eh?

r700 probably matches your 9800GTX pair and ups the ante with a four of a kind ;)

:D

who knows :p