Many US Kids confused by equals sign

mmntech

Lifer
I stink at math but at least I know what an equals sign means. Apparently a lot of children in the US don't.

U.S. students are being taught to memorize math formulas, instead of understanding them, which has led to confusion about what the equal sign means, a new study says.

Researchers at Texas A&M University say about 70% of students in Grade 6 in the U.S. "exhibit misconceptions" about the equal sign, while "nearly none of the international students in Korea and China" have this problem.
Co-author of the study, Robert Capraro, gives an example of the math equation: 4+3+2=( )+2.

U.S. students are being taught to memorize math formulas, instead of understanding them, which has led to confusion about what the equal sign means, a new study says.

Researchers at Texas A&M University say about 70% of students in Grade 6 in the U.S. "exhibit misconceptions" about the equal sign, while "nearly none of the international students in Korea and China" have this problem.
Co-author of the study, Robert Capraro, gives an example of the math equation: 4+3+2=( )+2.

One of the authors of the study explains the phenomenon in this video.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2010/08/10/14978931.html

techs

Lifer
U.S. education ='s dumbass.

MJinZ

Diamond Member
This is shens. Serious shens.

How do you not know = by age 4.

Leros

Lifer
Have you seen the methods they're trying to teach elementary kids how to do math? Instead of teaching them how to do it normally (which is apparently too hard), they're teaching them all sorts of tricks. These kids have no concept of what they're actually trying to accomplish. Its no wonder they don't know what an equal sign means.

Crono

Lifer
I can believe that "U.S. students are being taught to memorize math formulas" (I posted a thread a while back saying that I really don't like how the U.S. public education system is geared to memorizing for tests), but it's hard for me to imagine that a significant percentage of students don't grasp the equals sign.

xSauronx

Lifer
i hear some of them have issues with editing and using the copy/paste functions on a pc as well....

techs

Lifer
The War on Teachers is finally showing results!:thumbsup:

4+3+2=(42)+2.

The Boston Dangler

Lifer
god damn america!
god damn america!
god damn america!

Heller

Diamond Member
this has to be shens I'll be the first to admit im not the greatest in math but c'mon this is ridiculous

Crono

Lifer
god damn america!
god damn america!
god damn america!

Chanting will surely save us from ignorance and mediocrity.

Chris27

Member
It means assignment - duh!

Elite Member
I come closer and closer to supporting school vouchers for students that have potential every day.

theflyingpig

Banned
This is a direct result of the foolish idea that all students are capable and intelligent. This is simply not the case. Some students are just stupid, and should be treated as such. These foolish teaching methods are to blame for the ignorance of todays children. We have to abandon the idea that all children are equally intelligent. Some kids are just stupid. Everyone knows this.

IronWing

No Lifer
The equals sign is oppression in its purest form.

MJinZ

Diamond Member
This is a direct result of the foolish idea that all students are capable and intelligent. This is simply not the case. Some students are just stupid, and should be treated as such. These foolish teaching methods are to blame for the ignorance of todays children. We have to abandon the idea that all children are equally intelligent. Some kids are just stupid. Everyone knows this.

We already have special classes that are not counted (hopefully) towards these statistics.

Special Education.

Jeff7

Lifer
Have you seen the methods they're trying to teach elementary kids how to do math? Instead of teaching them how to do it normally (which is apparently too hard), they're teaching them all sorts of tricks. These kids have no concept of what they're actually trying to accomplish. Its no wonder they don't know what an equal sign means.
Marginally-relevant, but what the hell.

Math is a language, and a very orderly one at that.
It can't be taught with shortcuts. Kids: Sit down, shut up, pay attention, and learn this stuff goddamit.

Leros - what kind of tricks are they being shown? I can just think back to my math education and....well, I've only really got one line of exposure to math education. As best as I can remember, I was taught what amounts to building blocks - concepts that could be built on later. We did have some memorization of course, things like basic addition and subtraction. We'd have some timed test each week with simple problems like 5+9 or 8*5, that sort of thing, so that we'd know those basics, in preparation for things like long division.
I'm almost scared to ask what they're even being taught now if the "old" methods were allegedly too hard. (I'd also be interested to see how it's taught in places like Singapore, Japan, or other nations which make our math students look like chimps stacking numbered blocks.)

Hacp

Lifer
This is another reason why we shouldn't be spending money on stupid kids or special education kids. America is in a crisis. We need to spend more money on the mosts promising students and less money on students who are going to fail anyways.

Jeff7

Lifer
This is another reason why we shouldn't be spending money on stupid kids or special education kids. America is in a crisis. We need to spend more money on the mosts promising students and less money on students who are going to fail anyways.
Can we create a separate nation for the promising ones then?
The "left behind" morons will grow up eventually, to the point where they'll be able to vote.

UberNeuman

Lifer
This is another reason why we shouldn't be spending money on stupid kids or special education kids. America is in a crisis. We need to spend more money on the mosts promising students and less money on students who are going to fail anyways.

I agree. Why waste money on you?

Leros

Lifer
Marginally-relevant, but what the hell.

Math is a language, and a very orderly one at that.
It can't be taught with shortcuts. Kids: Sit down, shut up, pay attention, and learn this stuff goddamit.

Leros - what kind of tricks are they being shown? I can just think back to my math education and....well, I've only really got one line of exposure to math education. As best as I can remember, I was taught what amounts to building blocks - concepts that could be built on later. We did have some memorization of course, things like basic addition and subtraction. We'd have some timed test each week with simple problems like 5+9 or 8*5, that sort of thing, so that we'd know those basics, in preparation for things like long division.
I'm almost scared to ask what they're even being taught now if the "old" methods were allegedly too hard. (I'd also be interested to see how it's taught in places like Singapore, Japan, or other nations which make our math students look like chimps stacking numbered blocks.)

I'm not 100&#37; sure. I went to a private school for elementary and middle school that emphasized a classical education. In high school, I went to a public academic magnet school with really good teachers. So I can't personally say what the kids are being taught these days.

I read that at one school, the kids were being taught multiplication tables for single digit numbers and then being taught the FOIL method to "simply" multiplying higher digit numbers.

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dfuze

Lifer
this study seems a little hard to believe

roguerower

Diamond Member
Eh, doesn't surprise me at all. Pretty shocking display of where the education system is going in general. Standardized tests for the loss.

zerocool84

Lifer
This has to do with the teachers just making it easy for the kids to pass the tests so the teachers look good cus as we all know, if you have a high number of failures, you're job is gone.