Many parts- I don't know if I burnt them all!

tphss

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Hi everyone,

I have some really annoying and frustrating problems.
I bought a new case, trasferred all the parts to the new case, and it didn't work.
After sevral testings with another motherboard and another cpu (exect same, I have 2 of each), I managed to get it to light up (motherboard is on the table) but no post and no beep whatsoever.

I'll list the parts I have no idea after all the testing I did if they are faulty or good:

1) 2x AMD Athlon64 3500+ CPU's, tested them both, on 2 motherboards and one mobo might be shorted.
2) 2x MSI neo2 plat skt939 mobo (one is fried for sure, the chipset fan doesn't spin), I might have shorted other parts when trying to connect them to the faulty motherboard.
3) X800XT All in wonder card, the fan spins but I have no idea if it works.
4) Corsair TwinX XMS dual channel 1GB memory, has LED's on the heatsinks to show when they are operating, needless to say when I tried to test the LED's did not light up at all.


Now, I don't know what to do.
I have 1 other computer that has SATA and windows2000pro so I can recover the data from the SATA HD's I used on the 3500+ computer?
Should I test the X800XT and memory modules on this computer as well, or do I rink frying components on this computer?

Is it normal to take the motherboards and CPU's to a computer store and ask them to test them? I don't want to assume i fried them and maybe throw out good parts.
I also have 2 power supplies, one might be faulty also, although it does light up, one is new which I bought yesterday but I also tried to test with it.

I'm really almost giving up... any ideas?
 

oOZo

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tphss,

You should have an LED on your motherboard. When you put the system together it will change letters/numbers as your system is booting. When the process fails the letter/number combinations stop and you can look up at what point in the process the fail occured. You may also get an audible beep code. These should be available in your motherboard manual or OEM site.

If you google "hardware failure flowchart" the first link is a nice pdf on how to t/s boot and hardware failures.

OZ
 

tphss

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Sorry OZ, I didn't understand.
My system is not booting or posting at all, no post nothing on the screen, and I don't seem to have a LED on my motherboard.

I did turn on the computer one time without connecting the small power cord to the X800XT, and also I might have accidently connected a 5V 4 pin to the 12V atx 4pin socket.

Should I test the memory and graphic card on another computer?
Also, I have WD hard drives, if I want to connect them as slaves to recover my data on another computer, I only see 4 settings: "SSC_DIS - PM2 - OPT1 - OPT2" SSC_DIS (Spread Spectrum Clocking) is the factory settings, and on the Raptors it's "PM2". How should I set the jumpers?

 

oOZo

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Ok.

Here is the basic no post troubleshooting guide from MSI

http://www.msicomputer.com/support/sup_tshoot.asp#1_4


here are the beep codes from the link above

AMI Beep Code
Deep Code Description
1 short DRAMS refresh failure
2 short Parity circuit failure
3 short Base 64k RAM failure
4 short System timer failure
5 short Process failure
6 short Keyboard controller Gate A20 error
7 short Virtual mode exception error
8 short Display memory Read/Write test failure
9 short ROM BIOS checksum failure
10 short CMOS shutdown Read/Write error
11 short Cache Memory error
1 long, 3 short Conventional/Extended memory failure
1 long, 8 short Display/Retrace test failed


You may also have a D-Bracket with four lights to also diagnose issues once you find a powersupply. The D-Bracket appears in the manual for your Motherboard so you should have one. There is a picture in the manual linked here:

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/m.../mnu/spt_mnu_detail.php?UID=607&kind=1

If you cannot get your motherboard to power on try a new powersupply
Once you power on your motherboard successfully power off then add other componants and look at the codes to determine which ones are faulty.

OZ