'Many dead' in Iraq blast

[Czar]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3032814.stm

'Many dead' in Iraq blast


An ammunition dump has exploded in Iraq, killing about 30 people, it has been reported.
Many of the dead were said to have been looting the site at the time.

Local residents quoted by Reuters news agency said scores of people were also injured in the blast, which happened in a desert area near the town of Haditha, about 260 kilometres north-east of the capital, Baghdad.

Residents said United States forces arrested several looters but there has so far been no comment from the US military.

 

[Tab]

Who would be stupid enough to steal from a Ammo Dump? Jesus.

 

[BarneyFife]

Great news. The thieves got what they deserved.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Tabb
Who would be stupid enough to steal from a Ammo Dump? Jesus.

The same people who steal drums from nuclear planys and store food and water in them?


It amazes me that these people are thought to have the intellectual capacity to construct a logical thought mustless WMD.

 

[Czar]

A spokesman for US Central Command in Baghdad said that the dump was Iraqi, not American.

Because of that, he said, US forces in the area were not taking responsibility for caring for the wounded.

yeahh! way to go to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis.:disgust:

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Czar

A spokesman for US Central Command in Baghdad said that the dump was Iraqi, not American.

Because of that, he said, US forces in the area were not taking responsibility for caring for the wounded.

yeahh! way to go to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis.:disgust:

Do we give care to an iraqi painter who falls off a ladder? or better yet do we treat a theif who stabs himself while stealing knives?

Get a grip bleeding heart bedwetters.

CkG

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

A spokesman for US Central Command in Baghdad said that the dump was Iraqi, not American.

Because of that, he said, US forces in the area were not taking responsibility for caring for the wounded.

yeahh! way to go to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis.:disgust:

Do we give care to an iraqi painter who falls off a ladder? or better yet do we treat a theif who stabs himself while stealing knives?

Get a grip bleeding heart bedwetters.

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

A spokesman for US Central Command in Baghdad said that the dump was Iraqi, not American.

Because of that, he said, US forces in the area were not taking responsibility for caring for the wounded.

yeahh! way to go to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis.:disgust:

Do we give care to an iraqi painter who falls off a ladder? or better yet do we treat a theif who stabs himself while stealing knives?

Get a grip bleeding heart bedwetters.

CkG

WHEEEEEEEE!!! that was fun

CkG

 

[CaptnKirk]

You people are overlooking the facts that deal with a country that has been stressed by a war.

Those in the area are desparate to get anything that may be of value to them, either for their
personal use, or that may have a scrap and salvage value. The barrels that were taken had a
perceived use - hence value to them. Danger and risk from radioactivity is not apparent to those
people who have no knowledge of nuclear materials, and they can't see the radiation, so they do
not even have a clue that there is an associated danger to having the barrels.

As for a 'Dump', whether it's a garbage and waste dump, or a munitions disposal dump, what they
see is the value of scrap materials that they hope to obtain so the can sell and gain some money for.
Rummaging through a dump for survival is not uncommon in underprivledged countries, and it occurs
as well in countries that are not what we think of as bad off. Children in South America, Brazil for example,
have been rummaging for years just to stay alive.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

A spokesman for US Central Command in Baghdad said that the dump was Iraqi, not American.

Because of that, he said, US forces in the area were not taking responsibility for caring for the wounded.

yeahh! way to go to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis.:disgust:

Do we give care to an iraqi painter who falls off a ladder? or better yet do we treat a theif who stabs himself while stealing knives?

Get a grip bleeding heart bedwetters.

CkG

WHEEEEEEEE!!! that was fun

CkG

lol

 

[Trezza]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
You people are overlooking the facts that deal with a country that has been stressed by a war.

Those in the area are desparate to get anything that may be of value to them, either for their
personal use, or that may have a scrap and salvage value. The barrels that were taken had a
perceived use - hence value to them. Danger and risk from radioactivity is not apparent to those
people who have no knowledge of nuclear materials, and they can't see the radiation, so they do
not even have a clue that there is an associated danger to having the barrels.

As for a 'Dump', whether it's a garbage and waste dump, or a munitions disposal dump, what they
see is the value of scrap materials that they hope to obtain so the can sell and gain some money for.
Rummaging through a dump for survival is not uncommon in underprivledged countries, and it occurs
as well in countries that are not what we think of as bad off. Children in South America, Brazil for example,
have been rummaging for years just to stay alive.

Captain ammo dumps are actually storage facilities for active ammunition. They were trying to get weapons, ammo or explosives...well they got the explosives...

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Trezza

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
You people are overlooking the facts that deal with a country that has been stressed by a war.

Those in the area are desparate to get anything that may be of value to them, either for their
personal use, or that may have a scrap and salvage value. The barrels that were taken had a
perceived use - hence value to them. Danger and risk from radioactivity is not apparent to those
people who have no knowledge of nuclear materials, and they can't see the radiation, so they do
not even have a clue that there is an associated danger to having the barrels.

As for a 'Dump', whether it's a garbage and waste dump, or a munitions disposal dump, what they
see is the value of scrap materials that they hope to obtain so the can sell and gain some money for.
Rummaging through a dump for survival is not uncommon in underprivledged countries, and it occurs
as well in countries that are not what we think of as bad off. Children in South America, Brazil for example,
have been rummaging for years just to stay alive.

Captain ammo dumps are actually storage facilities for active ammunition. They were trying to get weapons, ammo or explosives...well they got the explosives...

Well then it makes sense to let them find their own way to the hospital... why should we occupiers help them out... they probably sell what they looted for food and water for their family... no worry now... the dead won't be fetching anymore and the wounded won't either for awhile... wonder what happens to the kids and mothers...?

 

[CaptnKirk]

So there an ammo dump in Iraq that contains a mixture of weapons that we leave open to the general public,
without securing the site, or guarding it - to make sure that collected weapons don't just pack up and leave ?

I don't buy that. If we don't have a known ammo dump under lock-down, we're dumber that we even know.
Yeah, in OUR country an ammo dump is a storage armory, but over there it's like a rummage sale ?


From todays New York Times - I rest my case:


An explosion over the weekend at an ammunitions depot killed at least 15 people and injured at least four near Hadithah, 150 miles northwest of Baghdad, officials said Tuesday.
Metal scavengers dismantled 155 mm artillery rounds, spreading gun powder on the ground at the depot, which housed old Iraqi artillery. A spark there Saturday set off massive explosions, local officials said.
Hadithah policeman Lt. Saad Aziz said there was a large pile of TNT explosives at the depot, and people were smoking there.
``This kind of TNT is very sensitive to heat. A small spark could set the whole thing off,'' he said.
Abdul Aziz Thalaj, 55, said he and two nephews went to the depot to get scrap metal to sell.
``I was amazed. I found live artillery ammunition. I felt this kind of work is very dangerous,'' he said from a hospital in Hadithah, his feet covered in gauze and his shoulder and arm badly burned.
Mohammed Nayil Assaf, Hadithah's mayor, put the death toll at 25 and the injured at 6. He said there was a large amount of ammunition stored in the area and insisted U.S. troops had been guarding it only sporadically.
``It was a tragic day for Hadithah,'' he told the AP outside the town hall, near a 3-foot-high pile of shell casings seized from looters after Saturday's explosion.

 

[Trezza]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
So there an ammo dump in Iraq that contains a mixture of weapons that we leave open to the general public,
without securing the site, or guarding it - to make sure that collected weapons don't just pack up and leave ?

I don't buy that. If we don't have a known ammo dump under lock-down, we're dumber that we even know.
Yeah, in OUR country an ammo dump is a storage armory, but over there it's like a rummage sale ?


<STRONG>From todays New York Times</STRONG> - I rest my case:


An explosion over the weekend at an ammunitions depot killed at least 15 people and injured at least four near Hadithah, 150 miles northwest of Baghdad, officials said Tuesday.
Metal scavengers dismantled 155 mm artillery rounds, spreading gun powder on the ground at the depot, which housed old Iraqi artillery. A spark there Saturday set off massive explosions, local officials said.
Hadithah policeman Lt. Saad Aziz said there was a large pile of TNT explosives at the depot, and people were smoking there.
``This kind of TNT is very sensitive to heat. A small spark could set the whole thing off,'' he said.
Abdul Aziz Thalaj, 55, said he and two nephews went to the depot to get scrap metal to sell.
``I was amazed. I found live artillery ammunition. I felt this kind of work is very dangerous,'' he said from a hospital in Hadithah, his feet covered in gauze and his shoulder and arm badly burned.
Mohammed Nayil Assaf, Hadithah's mayor, put the death toll at 25 and the injured at 6. He said there was a large amount of ammunition stored in the area and insisted U.S. troops had been guarding it only sporadically.
``It was a tragic day for Hadithah,'' he told the AP outside the town hall, near a 3-foot-high pile of shell casings seized from looters after Saturday's explosion.

atleast for me i would think that if you should maybe dismantle a bomb i don't know away from other bombs. From my read of your story it seams like this was an on going process till some guy was smoking a cigerette near a bomb. What ever branches of the military are there are not there to police the entire country as that would spread them out too thin.

The one thing i don't understand is if this was a know weapons cache why wasn't it destroyed. It might be equipment for the new iraqi gov't whenever that rolls around but in that case it should have been gaurded.

The only thing that bothers me is the article by Czar states that the "soldier arrested looters" but doesn't state when. Did they arrest before the explosion and these people got through, or did they arrest them after the explosion? makes me wonder.