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Mankind really can be immortal, but it will be quite a project (video explanation within)

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I was thinking, no, we'll never escape the earth, but I discovered this video recently.

Yes, our sun will turn into a red giant and incinerate the earth in a few billion years, but the case is made here by a scientist that it's conceivable that we spread human kind beyond our solar system. He explains!

Steven Kilston (the astronomer who developed high resolution satellite imagery) explains in a video with slides. He was my best friend when we were 20 or so. He was a Harvard undergrad, I was an undergrad at Cal (we'd been classmates in high school). A year later he discovered a comet, soon met Carl Sagan, and his career took off.

 
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I don't have a half hour on-hand to watch, but there's many, many ways a human civilization in the very near future would be able to deal with a red giant event from our star. Factoring in that we'll be several billions of years more advanced by that point, and it's a non-issue.
 
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I don't have a half hour on-hand to watch, but there's many, many ways a human civilization in the very near future would be able to deal with a red giant event from our star. Factoring in that we'll be several billions of years more advanced by that point, and it's a non-issue.
I imagine you often spend 1/2 hour doing something less valuable than watching that video.
 
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"that we spread human kind beyond our solar system."


Human filth doesn't need to ever get off this one rock.
 

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"that we spread human kind beyond our solar system."


Human filth doesn't need to ever get off this one rock.
Um, mofo, in order to do the things that Kilston suggests in that video we'll have left the filth behind. WATCH IT!
 

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Probably, but if I don't my life will be substantially worse. Summarize it for us!
That would require me to rewatch it first. Honestly, I too have a great deal to do. I submit it IS worth your time, not just for the technical first 80% but for the very deep philosophy at the end. But do as you will, I don't GAS.
 

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When that story was written I had just gotten into my first love in literature: science fiction.

Asimov was considered one of the "Big Three" science fiction writers, along with Robert A. Heinlein and Arthur C. Clarke.

I have never been a fan of Isaac Asimov. OTOH, I have read and enjoyed much of Heinlein and Clarke.

The video in the OP is not about science fiction at all.

Computers are useful but computers don't do all the work. You can give a set of tools to a mechanic tasked with fixing your car but that person has to utilize the tools or nothing gets fixed. Same with computers.
 
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Probably, but if I don't my life will be substantially worse. Summarize it for us!
Don't you ever do anything on a lark? Sometimes you just have to or you'll go crazy. Alan Watts said that as a tourist you should do some "unscheduled wandering."
 
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Surely it's just postponing the inevitable, given the universe itself won't last forever? Either a "big crunch" or an entropy-driven heat-death, don't really know what they currently think is more likely.

Will our barely-recognisable post-human descendants be huddling in the dark on a few freezing planetoids (orbiting evaporating black-holes?) as the remaining stars turn to cold dead embers, wondering what the hell the point of it all was?
 

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Don't you ever do anything on a lark? Sometimes you just have to or you'll go crazy. Alan Watts said that as a tourist you should do some unscheduled wandering.
I do lots of things on a lark, when I have time. I don't have much of that lately so I don't tend to lark as much.

You know, there's a saying, you don't understand something until you can explain it to someone else.
 

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Surely it's just postponing the inevitable, given the universe itself won't last forever?
"People talk about creation as a remote fact of history, as if it were something that was attended to a long time ago, and finished at the time. But creation was not an act; it is a process; and it is going on today as much as it ever was. And Nature is not in a hurry..." ~ John Muir
 
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