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Man with drug resistant TB locked up
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novasatori
Diamond Member
Hm, on one hand it seems justified, but on the other it is terribly tragic because as long as these remain "rare" cases what incentive is there for people to create treatment for an individual such as this.
I say free him, if we all die, we all die.
I say free him, if we all die, we all die.
Did you even read the part about how it said he was uncooperative and refused to follow Dr.'s orders on the precautions he was supposed to take to avoid infecting other people? He can rot in hell for all I care. I think he's right where he deserves to be. If he's too inconsiderate not to risk killing other people with his disease he doesn't deserve to live out his final days in freedom.
Lets use some common sense here people. This man is carrying a deadly disease. Going outside of quarantine exposes others to this deadly disease. We simply cannot allow him to leave quarantine, it's that simple. People's lives are in danger, and he has no right to endanger others. THAT'S the legal prerogative for keeping him locked up.
techs
Lifer
Forcible quarantine of contagious people has always been allowed and the courts have supported it. Mostly this was done long ago, so the court decisions may be revisited.
That said, as long as it is applied to truly dangerous diseases with a reasonable chance of spreading, I think its ok.
What really worried HIV patients a few years back was that fear and ignorance and hate would get them forcibly quarantined. Hence the strong resistance to keeping records on who was HIV positive.
That said, as long as it is applied to truly dangerous diseases with a reasonable chance of spreading, I think its ok.
What really worried HIV patients a few years back was that fear and ignorance and hate would get them forcibly quarantined. Hence the strong resistance to keeping records on who was HIV positive.
spittledip
Diamond Member
They need to at least give the poor man a mirror- says he hasn't seen his reflection since he went in there. And I hope they are giving him stuff to do- that would be some boring hellish situation to be in.
In the process of getting further information, I discovered that the medical authorities received a court order to put this man into isolation.
Now answer me this. Do you prefer a softwood or hardwood for the stick shoved in your a55? I've never said "boo" to you, yet you come off with this authoritarian post meant to publicly humiliate me. Just who are you?
That's what I thought.
blackangst1
Lifer
I believe criminally he *can* be held. He is *knowingly* putting others at risk by not following doc's orders or quarantine. Much in the same way if you are known HIV + and knowingly infect others, you go to jail
Part of the problem with developing new treatments for resistant strains is that some countries have little or no regulation concerning over the counter antibiotic sales. This makes these countries veritable breeeding grounds for resistant diseases as people treat everything from a cold (antibiotics are useless) to an earache with antibiotics.
As far as the idiot that won't follow orders? he willingly and knowingly risked the lives of others without regard. He desrves prison. No sympathy here. Rot in prison till your cured or dead, then maybe you'll do as instructed.
As far as the idiot that won't follow orders? he willingly and knowingly risked the lives of others without regard. He desrves prison. No sympathy here. Rot in prison till your cured or dead, then maybe you'll do as instructed.
International Machine Consortium
Golden Member
yeah haha. Really funny. :roll:
umbrella39
Lifer
"Where I come from, the doctors don't wear masks"......
Well tough sh!t. Where I come from we have to be fitted for HEPA masks to deal with these TB patients. Go back to Russia and spread your TB with a clear mind.
Well tough sh!t. Where I come from we have to be fitted for HEPA masks to deal with these TB patients. Go back to Russia and spread your TB with a clear mind.
steppinthrax
Diamond Member
I don't see any problem with this. HE WASEN'T FOLLOWING DOCTOR'S ORDERS. This may sound bad but he is one person. For him to infect a large amount of people is ridiculous. Sacrifice his life for the masses.
blackangst1
Lifer
aye
There is less and less research money going into treatments for acute infections like this. Chronic meds are more profitable to big pharma then things that could be cured in the course of a few weeks.
Once enough resistance comes about (and it increases every day) more people will become sick or die and it will be profitable again. Hopefully it won't be too late by that point.
p.s. treatments for treatable TB actually go on for months, i'm just speaking of antibiotics and things of those nature in general
here I found this list that sums up what i mean
Commercial reasons
for lack of innovation
1. Antibiotics not as profitable as drugs to treat
chronic diseases
2. Pharma industry consolidation: fewer people
in fewer companies doing antibiotic research
3. Science is particularly difficult = financial risk
4. Highly genericised market ? overall price is
low
5. Push to reduce use to tackle resistance ?
reduces size of market
6. Risk-averse regulatory environment: onerous
for antibiotics
7. Inevitability of resistance limits antibiotic
lifespan ? limits duration in market place
Once enough resistance comes about (and it increases every day) more people will become sick or die and it will be profitable again. Hopefully it won't be too late by that point.
p.s. treatments for treatable TB actually go on for months, i'm just speaking of antibiotics and things of those nature in general
here I found this list that sums up what i mean
Commercial reasons
for lack of innovation
1. Antibiotics not as profitable as drugs to treat
chronic diseases
2. Pharma industry consolidation: fewer people
in fewer companies doing antibiotic research
3. Science is particularly difficult = financial risk
4. Highly genericised market ? overall price is
low
5. Push to reduce use to tackle resistance ?
reduces size of market
6. Risk-averse regulatory environment: onerous
for antibiotics
7. Inevitability of resistance limits antibiotic
lifespan ? limits duration in market place
imported_Shivetya
Platinum Member
8. Litigous society means treatments that don't work 100% end up costing the drug companies millions in bogus lawsuits. == financial risk
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