Man Stabbed After 'Coming On' To Lesbian

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bennylong

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What kind of people carry steak knife??? That 's cold blooded murder and I hope those 7 rot in hell.
 

skace

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Not really. A midget with a knife is just as deadly as a 6'5" man with a knife.

Yes but the midget w/ the knife is even scarier. Haven't you ever seen that horror movie with the fetish and the knife? GAH.
 

bennylong

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
would this even be an issue if they were heterosexual?

gays want equallity, then fine. You should face the exact same charges as anyone else for your crimes and stop playing the "hate crime" card.

time for these ladies to grow up and take responsibilty for their actions.

This would be like a straight man coming on to a fat chick and the fat chick reject him and he starts calling her fatty fat fat mcfat cowbell fattybell and then she pulls out a pie and chokes him to death with her pies and call it "self defense because it was a hate crime against fat chick"
 

bennylong

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anyone have the link to that skinny white guy that was calling some fat chick a cow and then got blindsided by a 400 pounds fat chick outside a theater while 2 other fat chicks whaled on him?
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: bennylong
What kind of people carry steak knife??? That 's cold blooded murder and I hope those 7 rot in hell.

how is it murder, the guy isn't dead. he's in a stable condition recovering in hospital.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777:roll:

What a load of crap. You clearly know little or nothing about law.

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/personal_injury/assault_battery.html

Perhaps you should verify your impeccable knowledge before talking out your @ss. ;)

I think she'll have a hard time defending herself in a court of law against someone spitting on her by stabbing him with a knife. She's going to jail.

Hehehe, in fact, the link you provided states the following:

"An act of self-defense must ordinarily be proportionate to the threat. That is, if you believe a person is going to spit on you, depending upon the context it may be reasonable to push the person away, but it would not be reasonable to hit the person with a baseball bat."
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777:roll:

What a load of crap. You clearly know little or nothing about law.

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/personal_injury/assault_battery.html

Perhaps you should verify your impeccable knowledge before talking out your @ss. ;)

How interesting. Under those guidelines, that guy committed battery. She would have to show a well founded fear of imminent peril, I suppose, for her self-defense claims to be taken seriously.. Altho her response seems a somewhat disproportionate to the threat.

 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Buckle allegedly spat at her... "He spat on us and threw a cigarette."

If I'm not mistaken, spitting on someone is considered the same as striking them (as far as the law goes). So he threw the first punch, and they defended themselves.

:roll:

What a load of crap. You clearly know little or nothing about law.

a) TOTALLY disproportionate(which is an essential requirement of self defense in most countries)
b)the spit would not constitute something that would require 'defense' unless accompanied by a lot more...

dug777, you clearly know nothing about the law.

Here in the states, spitting on someone is easily prosecuted as, at the very least, misdemeanor assault. It's not uncommon to be convicted of assault as a result.

Maybe you should think before commenting on US laws, eh?
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: bennylong
What kind of people carry steak knife??? That 's cold blooded murder and I hope those 7 rot in hell.

how is it murder, the guy isn't dead. he's in a stable condition recovering in hospital.

Where was he stabbed? The article did not mention that (was it the chest, or was that about the 2003 incident.)

Regardess, pulling out a knife and stabbing someone for being a total dick, while probably satisfying, is in no way legal or understandable.
 

ForumMaster

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there's a differnece between claiming "self defense" and between stabbing him and then punching him and kicking him. crazy woman though.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: bennylong
What kind of people carry steak knife??? That 's cold blooded murder and I hope those 7 rot in hell.

how is it murder, the guy isn't dead. he's in a stable condition recovering in hospital.

Where was he stabbed? The article did not mention that (was it the chest, or was that about the 2003 incident.)

Regardess, pulling out a knife and stabbing someone for being a total dick, while probably satisfying, is in no way legal or understandable.

she stabbed him several times in the stomach, I believe.
 

amdforever2

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Use slurs against people for long enough, drag enough f*gs behind pickup trucks, eventually they're gonna stab you with a steak knife.

Provoke a group long enough.............bad things happen.

 

jman19

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Originally posted by: amdforever2
Use slurs against people for long enough, drag enough f*gs behind pickup trucks, eventually they're gonna stab you with a steak knife.

Provoke a group long enough.............bad things happen.

True.

Doesn't make their actions justifiable, however.
 

Brutuskend

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A little excessive? Yes

Way over reacting? Yes

Proper way to react to a "Hate Crime"? Not in my opinion. Spitting on someone and tossing a cigarette is WRONG, but it is NOT life threatening so to stab and beat someone for that is just plain assault. If there was a hate crime committed, it was committed by the women IMO.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Buckle allegedly spat at her... "He spat on us and threw a cigarette."

If I'm not mistaken, spitting on someone is considered the same as striking them (as far as the law goes). So he threw the first punch, and they defended themselves.

:roll:

What a load of crap. You clearly know little or nothing about law.

a) TOTALLY disproportionate(which is an essential requirement of self defense in most countries)
b)the spit would not constitute something that would require 'defense' unless accompanied by a lot more...

dug777, you clearly know nothing about the law.

Here in the states, spitting on someone is easily prosecuted as, at the very least, misdemeanor assault. It's not uncommon to be convicted of assault as a result.

Maybe you should think before commenting on US laws, eh?

You are a moron. Now go away and actually read what i wrote :roll:

I never actually disagreed with what you say, reading comprehension FTW.
 

Number1

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This guy got lucky they didn't have a hand gun instead of a knife.
If the guy had AIDS would spitting at someone be considered assault with a deadly weapon?
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Number1
This guy got lucky they didn't have a hand gun instead of a knife.
If the guy had AIDS would spitting at someone be considered assault with a deadly weapon?

That's not the issue i raise. The issue in most countries is that force used in 'self-defence' has to be proportional to the degree of threat and what is necessary to remove that threat. In this case, they went FAR above & beyond a proportional response, which might have been spitting back, or slapping/punching him at the most.

What they should have done is reported it to a cop..with 6 witnesses at least they'd be laughing...

As to your question, if the guy knew it, it would most likely be i suppose...

EDIT: and really, they got lucky they didn't have gun, since the shooter would be up for murder...
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: LanceM
Yikes... why didn't they just light him on fire, as well? Why did she even have a steak knife on her? Just because there have been homophobic attacks in the past? I saw a guy getting chased with a machete on the highway, once. Perhaps I better stock up on some grenades on my daily commute and toss 'em at anyone that tailgates.

Seriously, this is attempted murder.

Sounds like a reasonable response to me. The guy was becoming very abusive, in the heat of the moment all kinds of past events would have probably scared the chick senseless.

If the guy lives: Assault with a deadly weapon or Self-Defense

Dies: Manslaughter or Self-Defense

Moral of the story: Don't be an asshole to chicks, especially chicks of a group which have a history of being seriously assaulted or even killed.

Idiot.

How the hell is beating someone almost to death and stabbing them self defense in this case? :roll:

Moral of the story: you fail at reading comprehension.

I do? We don't know all the details. We know a man went from "coming on" to highly abusive and we know the chicks reacted to that. I gave a range of likely outcomes to cover the bases. Deal with it.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: dug777:roll:

What a load of crap. You clearly know little or nothing about law.

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/personal_injury/assault_battery.html

Perhaps you should verify your impeccable knowledge before talking out your @ss. ;)

you just linked to a tort when we're talking about criminal law, genius

Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: bennylong
What kind of people carry steak knife??? That 's cold blooded murder and I hope those 7 rot in hell.

how is it murder, the guy isn't dead. he's in a stable condition recovering in hospital.
which is why it's attempted murder.
 

spidey07

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If anything THEY commited the hate crime and it should be prosucted as such.

Can't spin it any other way. You commited a hate crime and should face the consequences.
 

MrDudeMan

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Jan 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: spidey07
If anything THEY commited the hate crime and it should be prosucted as such.

Can't spin it any other way. You commited a hate crime and should face the consequences.