Man shot by Dick Cheney: "I was lucky" to escape death

[trenchfoot]

We now understand exactly how serious hurt Wittman was, but Wittman and the entire hunting party mutually conspired to cover the incident up until Wittman's injuries became infected. And only after he sought medical attention it became clear that his injuries were far more severe that initially suspected.

Nor is easy to believe the Wittman line that Dick Cheney never apologized, because its my understanding that Dick Cheney was very shaken up by the accident, and everyone in the hunting party including Cheney knew a good part of the blame belonged to Cheney. But all were covering for Cheney because as soon as Wittman went to a doctor, the law demanded any gunshot wounds be made public.

As much as I hate Dick Cheney and defending him, honesty demands the truth and not just a another soapbox to spew revisionist history lies.

But the world wonders and many hope that the quail got away unscathed.

So true.

I tried to imagine me standing in front a shotgun some yards away pointed in my direction knowing the blast was imminent or on its way. Really sucks to have all those BB's implanted in such a fashion. Especially in the face. Poor guy. Took a swarm for the Veep.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I always assumed the reason the injuries were handled the way they were (delaying getting medical care and not notifying the local authorities until the next day, as I recall) was because Cheney was likely inebriated at the time of the shooting.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

okay I will bite. What good would it have done for authorities to charge cheney with ordinary negligence? Did cheney blatantly disregard the need to use reasonable care? Did he fail to excercise reasonable care? Did he shoot the guy with criminal intent? Did the victim want charges pressed?

Sure Cheney is a douche for not apologizing publicly but I can see why he would not legally... the guy could die from a pellet and his family would sue Cheney.

If all parties are in agreement why should authorities pursue charges?

You know, in sane nations criminal negligance isn't up to any of the parties to decide, it's up to the law.

You can't just shoot a man in the face and say oops in most nations which is why i said ONLY IN AMERICA.

 

[werepossum]

I always assumed the reason the injuries were handled the way they were (delaying getting medical care and not notifying the local authorities until the next day, as I recall) was because Cheney was likely inebriated at the time of the shooting.

I never knew Cheney was a Kennedy.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I never knew Cheney was a Kennedy.

In NK you inherit power, in the US, you have to become powerful enough to earn it.

 

[werepossum]

In NK you inherit power, in the US, you have to become powerful enough to earn it.

I dunno. Teddy pretty much inherited power. His oldest brother, being groomed to be President, was killed in the war, then his shiftless but well-meaning brother became President and was promptly assassinated, then his other brother was assassinated, so by defacto he became Massachusetts royalty. And look at Bush - anybody really think Bush would have ever become President (or governor) had his father not been so powerful? The more powerful and intrusive government becomes, the closer we get to having our own Brahmin class.

 

[qliveur]

Thank you.

He'll not get my vote after reading this.

LOL :awe:

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I dunno. Teddy pretty much inherited power. His oldest brother, being groomed to be President, was killed in the war, then his shiftless but well-meaning brother became President and was promptly assassinated, then his other brother was assassinated, so by defacto he became Massachusetts royalty. And look at Bush - anybody really think Bush would have ever become President (or governor) had his father not been so powerful? The more powerful and intrusive government becomes, the closer we get to having our own Brahmin class.

You missed my point, which was just that "inherited power" GHB - GWB or the Kennedys if you wish.

Sarah becoming president would be awesome, we could sell her the bridge to Ireland.

 

[MJinZ]

lool republicans

 

[Lemon law]

Please JOS don't give me your arrogance of, "You can't just shoot a man in the face and say oops in most nations which is why i said ONLY IN AMERICA."

English history is steeped in injustices, religious wars and mass murder. I will not defend similar American actions, but almost every nation on earth is in total denial of the villainy they too have committed.

But to equate what amounts to a hunting accident into only American typical behavior is absurd. And way beyond the scope of this thread.

But point granted JOS, you can start a thread on past and present American behavior and I may well agree with some or even most of it, but I and others can use the much longer and richer history of the British injustices to really demolish all your only in America absurdities.

Do you really really want to play that you will surely lose game JOS?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Please JOS don't give me your arrogance of, "You can't just shoot a man in the face and say oops in most nations which is why i said ONLY IN AMERICA."

English history is steeped in injustices, religious wars and mass murder. I will not defend similar American actions, but almost every nation on earth is in total denial of the villainy they too have committed.

But to equate what amounts to a hunting accident into only American typical behavior is absurd. And way beyond the scope of this thread.

But point granted JOS, you can start a thread on past and present American behavior and I may well agree with some or even most of it, but I and others can use the much longer and richer history of the British injustices to really demolish all your only in America absurdities.

Do you really really want to play that you will surely lose game JOS?

And american history is based on genocide on the scale of Hitlers holocaust.

You want to discuss history? Go fuck yourself and for the love of chirst stop stalking me with your off topic bullsheit.

I'm talking about in this day and age and you know it you drunk piece of sheit.

If you feel the need to stalk me and post bullsheit, you are going to either have to apologise or go on my ignore list, you see, i don't need an insane piece of shit distrupting my day.

Are we clear?

 

[Lemon law]

No JOS, "we are not clear."

If you make an absurd statement, expect to be refuted. It does not mean I am stalking you, it merely means nations that live in glass houses should not throw holier than thou stones.

I detest Dick Cheney and all he has done, but a mere hunting accident proves nothing about America.

Now I invited you to start your own tread on American villainy compared to past British villainy, now put up or shut up.

In the words of that great British bard, its out damn spot, but the blood stains never wash away. But still the forces of European colonialism has shaped the world for 500 years, And can we say, with all the boil, boil, time and trouble, and eye of Newt, that the world has not been better off from colonialism?

But now that we are in a post colonialist phase of history, and we can ask are we managing the issues better? Somehow, I think not.

We can't change a rotten past and only the future.

 

[Lanyap]

Somebody has a case of basement rage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqsp0taeZIM

 

[Lemon law]

Somebody has a case of basement rage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqsp0taeZIM

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Sorry lanyap, I have far more respect for JOS taking a definite position than you taking a totally irrelevant position.

 

[Jhhnn]

Whatever else can be said, it seems to me that Whittington is an extremely gracious individual.

Hunters' ability to concentrate on the target leads to a form of tunnel vision, where they don't see anything else, and the law of unintended consequences can ensue. It's of the utmost importance for hunters to realize that, and to compensate for it.

That tendency carries over into other aspects of life, as well, something the results of Bush/Cheney economic policy illustrate all too vividly. It's really another aspect of "can't see the forest for the trees"... when you can't see your hunting partner because you're concentrating on the bird...

 

[hal2kilo]

So fucking what, it's an example of how this works, if you are powerful enough you can shoot people without being charged with even negligence.

ONLY in America.

We have the best justice system money can buy. What, are you jealous?