Man robs bank to get medical care in jail

[dmcowen674]

This is the utopia Republicans have made.

Many people have been taking out their family and themselves while others get more creative like this guy. I'm sure there will be may copy cats.

6-21-2011

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelo...out/man-robs-bank-to-get-medical-care-in-jail

Man robs bank to get medical care in jail


Some people who need medical care but can't afford it go to the emergency room. Others just hope they'll get better.



James Richard Verone robbed a bank.


Earlier this month, Verone (pictured), a 59-year-old convenience store clerk, walked into a Gaston, N.C., bank and handed the cashier a note demanding $1 and medical attention. Then he waited calmly for police to show up.


He's now in jail and has an appointment with a doctor this week.
Verone's problems started when he lost the job he'd held for 17 years as a Coca Cola deliveryman, amid the economic downturn. He found new work driving a truck, but it didn't last. Eventually, he took a part-time position at the convenience store.

Then he noticed a protrusion on his chest. "The pain was beyond the tolerance that I could accept

In jail, Verone said he skips dinner to avoid too much contact with the other inmates. He's already seen some nurses and is scheduled to see a doctor on Friday. He said he's hoping to receive back and foot surgery, and get the protrusion on his chest treated. Then he plans to spend a few years in jail, before getting out in time to collect Social Security and move to the beach.


Verone also presented the view that if the United States had a health-care system which offered people more government support, he wouldn't have had to make the choice he did.

 

[Craig234]

Left: how sad he had to go to jail for treatment - a reminder we need universal Medicare

Right: Shows we need to slash spending for medical care for prisoners

Centrists: both sides are wrong. Don't ask me how, but they're both just partisan so they must be wrong.

Libertarians: People wouldn't rob banks if Dr. Paul was president

Tea Party: We should execute prisoners, solves the problem

 

[JTsyo]

Left: how sad he had to go to jail for treatment - a reminder we need universal Medicare

Right: Shows we need to slash spending for medical care for prisoners

Centrists: both sides are wrong. Don't ask me how, but they're both just partisan so they must be wrong.

Libertarians: People wouldn't rob banks if Dr. Paul was president

Tea Party: We should execute prisoners, solves the problem

hmm the Tea Party seems to be the only one in your example with a solution. Effective too.

 

[Munky]

Verone's problems started when he lost the job he'd held for 17 years as a Coca Cola deliveryman, amid the economic downturn.

There's your problem right there. The Democrat's idea of forcing everyone to buy insurance at gunpoint is not gonna improve the situation.

 

[Craig234]

There's your problem right there. The Democrat's idea of forcing everyone to buy insurance at gunpoint is not gonna improve the situation.

Actually, it's the Republicans' idea. Want to attack Obama? Try plagiarism. Only when Democrats said 'ok, we'll use your system since you won't vote for ours' did they switch.

We don't need the individual mandate - if you people will stop blocking 'Medicare for all'.

If you do, then it's the next best thing, despite your whiny 'gunpoint' melodrama.

 

[rudder]

What kind of house did this guy own? What percentage of his income went to his mortgage? Did he have a reserve emergency fund? Did he have money to pay for his own insurance? What are his assets? At 59 one would hope you have a house that is paid for or some other amount of assets. Likely he never invested a dime instead relying on social security for his retirement.

When I had a period of unemployment and I was the sole bread winner, my family did not go without insurance. granted it was only for 6 weeks and it was crappy insurance, but we were covered in case of any emergencies.

Now this idiot has a criminal record which will make it that much harder to find gainful employment.

 

[BoberFett]

Left: how sad he had to go to jail for treatment - a reminder we need universal Medicare

Right: Shows we need to slash spending for medical care for prisoners

Centrists: both sides are wrong. Don't ask me how, but they're both just partisan so they must be wrong.

Libertarians: People wouldn't rob banks if Dr. Paul was president

Tea Party: We should execute prisoners, solves the problem

Cockroach234: I should use this poor man's personal tragedy to troll for my team

 

[ProfJohn]

It is a shame this wasn't California so the courts could kick him out of jail due to over crowding.

 

[Munky]

Actually, it's the Republicans' idea. Want to attack Obama? Try plagiarism. Only when Democrats said 'ok, we'll use your system since you won't vote for ours' did they switch.

We don't need the individual mandate - if you people will stop blocking 'Medicare for all'.

If you do, then it's the next best thing, despite your whiny 'gunpoint' melodrama.

Of course, that must be why nancy pelozi worked overtime to shove her healthcare reform into law while most of congress wasn't looking. Keep trolololing....

 

[Throckmorton]

Cockroach234: I should use this poor man's personal tragedy to troll for my team

A man going to jail to get medical care isn't a "personal tragedy". It's a national failure. :thumbsdown:

 

[BoberFett]

We don't need the individual mandate - if you people will stop blocking 'Medicare for all'.

Is that the same Medicare that forces hospitals to jack up their prices for everyone else because Medicare only pays a small portion of the cost?

The same Medicare that is responsible for half of the total health care expenditures in this country while only covering about 15% of the population?

Yeah, I can see why we'd want that for everyone.

 

[Corn]

Left: how sad he had to go to jail for treatment - a reminder we need universal Medicare

Right: Shows we need to slash spending for medical care for prisoners

Centrists: both sides are wrong. Don't ask me how, but they're both just partisan so they must be wrong.

Libertarians: People wouldn't rob banks if Dr. Paul was president

Tea Party: We should execute prisoners, solves the problem

100% of what you say is complete and utter bullshit.

 

[irishScott]

Left: how sad he had to go to jail for treatment - a reminder we need universal Medicare and should spend trillions of dollars to do it despite being in mountains of debt just so the odd one who slips through the cracks doesn't suffer. Because, you know, the whole should suffer for the comfort of the few.

Right: Sad story, but one sad story doesn't make it necessary to change a policy in ways that would negatively affect hundreds of millions, and possibly billions over the generations. The system we have now isn't perfect, but it's the best we can do right now. After all, we're all about tradition because tradition is the magic of Jesus, and we believe in magic. In the meantime, we need to cut vital programs while simultaneously cutting taxes. That way we vitalize the economy while spending less money, even through we're actually cutting revenue while simultaneously cutting spending.

Centrists: The left wants to spend money when we're in mountains of growing debt, like the several-credit-card baby boomer who still buys that hummer and McMansion to feel good about himself. The right just wants to cut everything with no regard for any real reform that doesn't fit their agenda. What we need is logic, common sense and a willingness to do without certain things so we can cut spending and raise revenue, possibly by raising taxes. Unfortunately there are not enough of us unified to make this "best of both worlds" perspective happen, so the lefties and righties will keep fighting like kids on a see saw while the playground burns around them. Once they're engulfed maybe the other kids will help us do something about it.

Libertarians: *mutters* FREE MARKET! *mutters*

Tea Party: Ughh... DOWN WITH OBAMA! CUT EVERYTHING YOU COMMUNIST BASTARD! *foams at the mouth*

Fixed.

 

[Corn]

From McMoron's link in the OP:

Then he plans to spend a few years in jail, before getting out in time to collect Social Security and move to the beach.

Our poor dear healthcare martyr can't allegedly afford to get healthcare, but his future SSI earnings will be enough to set him up in a pad on the beach?

 

[Craig234]

Of course, that must be why nancy pelozi worked overtime to shove her healthcare reform into law while most of congress wasn't looking. Keep trolololing....

You're an idiot. Nancy Pelosi's healthcare reform - single-payer - didn't pass, and if you think the most widely publicized bill of the year got through unnoticed... brain damage.

 

[RabidMongoose]

I'm going to do what Craig234 does when he tries to deflect conversation from being about government supported royal families and say that in some countries, people don't have access to healthcare through universal healthcare, prisons, or whatever else. This guy lived to be 59 years old, but in some places, people would be lucky to live up to the age of 59.

Clearly we shouldn't be talking about healthcare in the US if other countries have other issues going on.

 

[irishScott]

I'm going to do what Craig234 does when he tries to deflect conversation from being about government supported royal families and say that in some countries, people don't have access to healthcare through universal healthcare, prisons, or whatever else. This guy lived to be 59 years old, but in some places, people would be lucky to live up to the age of 59.

Clearly we shouldn't be talking about healthcare in the US if other countries have other issues going on.

lol. Craig and most hardcore liberals are spoiled naive children or poor people raised to be victims with entitlement personalities.

 

[Munky]

You're an idiot. Nancy Pelosi's healthcare reform - single-payer - didn't pass, and if you think the most widely publicized bill of the year got through unnoticed... brain damage.

You mean so widely publicized that Pelosi declined to allow CSPAN to cover the final negations for the bill as she tried to ram it down everyone's throats before the deadline? Better check your facts, idiot.

 

[theeedude]

There's your problem right there. The Democrat's idea of forcing everyone to buy insurance at gunpoint is not gonna improve the situation.

You mean Republican idea that the Democrats borrowed instead of going with their actual idea of Medicare for all?

 

[Craig234]

You mean so widely publicized that Pelosi declined to allow CSPAN to cover the final negations for the bill as she tried to ram it down everyone's throats before the deadline? Better check your facts, idiot.

LOL idiot, ya, there were *shocking* things in the bill she "shoved through".

Why don't you list the top 10 things people were *shocked* are in the bill after it passed?

Oh, the sound of crickets, because there wasn't a single thing 'snuck through' - unlike, by the way, many clauses 'snuck into' bills under Republicans.

Like the non-negotiation clause in Medicare Part D for just one example.

 

[theeedude]

Is that the same Medicare that forces hospitals to jack up their prices for everyone else because Medicare only pays a small portion of the cost?

The same Medicare that is responsible for half of the total health care expenditures in this country while only covering about 15% of the population?

Yeah, I can see why we'd want that for everyone.

LOL. Are you really this stupid?

 

[Munky]

LOL idiot, ya, there were *shocking* things in the bill she "shoved through".

Why don't you list the top 10 things people were *shocked* are in the bill after it passed?

Oh, the sound of crickets, because there wasn't a single thing 'snuck through' - unlike, by the way, many clauses 'snuck into' bills under Republicans.

Like the non-negotiation clause in Medicare Part D for just one example.

I'll give you the #1 thing people were shocked about (or *not* shocked, if they aren't dumb like you).... it didn't lower insurance and healthcare costs, but increased them for the average person.

 

[Infohawk]

This tells me medical care in jails and prisons should be scaled back. The reason people are complaining about government unions and benefits for public workers is that when you are affiliated with the government (whether it be as a criminal or an honest worker), you get more benefits than in the private economy. This was not the way it was supposed to be.

The problem is that this country is becoming relatively poorer. As the private sector recedes, the government sector needs to follow suit. If we want more people to have health care we need to grow jobs which is hard to do when we're in a rate race with third-worlders.

 

[nobodyknows]

It is a shame this wasn't California so the courts could kick him out of jail due to over crowding.

uh, you might want to pull your pants up, we can see more then just your crack.

 

[theeedude]

This tells me medical care in jails and prisons should be scaled back. The reason people are complaining about government unions and benefits for public workers is that when you are affiliated with the government (whether it be as a criminal or an honest worker), you get more benefits than in the private economy. This was not the way it was supposed to be.

The problem is that this country is becoming relatively poorer. As the private sector recedes, the government sector needs to follow suit. If we want more people to have health care we need to grow jobs which is hard to do when we're in a rate race with third-worlders.

So your answer to private sector cutting health care benefits to compete with third worlders is for the government to follow suit and add to the number of uninsured?