Man, my GF works so much... can you beat her hours?

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amish

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You can assume she's fresh out of college. Or you can also assume she's 30, worked at an international firm, and now is a Senior Associate. Look it up at Glassdoor.

I don't know what's bullshit about it. Making lowest end of six figures in NYC is nothing to brag about.

meh, so i stand corrected for NYC. i hadn't heard of anyone making that much as a senior. however, even based on the inflated RHI salary guide, pulling $110K in NYC is easily doable.

fucking sucks to find out that i am grossly underpaid again...

tax senior here.
 

JS80

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meh, so i stand corrected for NYC. i hadn't heard of anyone making that much as a senior. however, even based on the inflated RHI salary guide, pulling $110K in NYC is easily doable.

fucking sucks to find out that i am grossly underpaid again...

tax senior here.

My tax director (private co) makes $175k. Slave for a few more years and the rewards will come.
 

amish

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holy shit she's 30 and she's a senior? She ain't doing something right.

she could be one of the "super" seniors, missing a key component to being promoted, or could be in a service line that has a slow growth rate.
 

Zeze

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she could be one of the "super" seniors, missing a key component to being promoted, or could be in a service line that has a slow growth rate.

Don't get mad because you're underpaid. Vent it out online if it makes you feel better.

Seriously, what an asshole comment.
 

amish

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My tax director (private co) makes $175k. Slave for a few more years and the rewards will come.

ugh, i'd be happy with $100K. honestly, the issue is me staying in Indiana. not much of a market here. with my luck i'll continue working my way up, get transfered to detroit for "a learning experience", and then spend the rest of my days working for the automotive industry trying to get them to pay my invoices.
 

amish

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Don't get mad because you're underpaid. Vent it out online if it makes you feel better.

Seriously, what an asshole comment.

this wasn't meant to be a venomous comment. "super seniors" are pretty common. they are just people that have all the skills to be a manager, are basically managers, but don't want the issues with being a manager.

i work with a few people that don't have their CPA or EA to be promoted.

also, i work in a slow growth service line. i see it happen first hand. one ED that has been around for 23 years. no senior mgrs. 4 managers and one should be a sr. mgr. 5 seniors all vying for a manager position. and a couple staff that aren't going anywhere
 

Zeze

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She just got her CPA actually.

In NJ, she had to necessary hours (or something) to get CPA (already passed test).

But since we moved to NYC, NYC doesn't require the hours. So she received her cool crisp certificate in mail few weeks ago. She's been with PwC for less than a year.

Okay, no more revealing about our personal life. :\ Gaining nothing.
 
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Gibson486

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More like $55k out of school.

That is probably now, but in 07, they were paying them top dollar. Maybe it is skewed because the people that got jobs there that I know of had 1.5 years experience from internships.
 

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Working long hours in and of itself is not a virtue - flipping burgers for 80 hours a week, while making you a hard worker, does little to increase your overall value to any given company - especially because that type of lifestyle is unsustainable. However, I do think it's worthwhile to put in ridiculous hours if it helps you grow as a professional. I've spent a number of years working anywhere from 60-120 hours a week (for someone else) and that experience helped me grow technically as well as managerially (lots of early mistakes, etc.). Additionally, that bitter experience of slaving away for someone else's bottom line makes me doubly motivated when it comes to running my own company now.
 

thegimp03

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That is probably now, but in 07, they were paying them top dollar. Maybe it is skewed because the people that got jobs there that I know of had 1.5 years experience from internships.

I was still in public in 2007 and new hires were getting $56k tops if they already had their CPA or a Master's degree. 1.5 years of experience probably skews it a bit.
 

JS80

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ugh, i'd be happy with $100K. honestly, the issue is me staying in Indiana. not much of a market here. with my luck i'll continue working my way up, get transfered to detroit for "a learning experience", and then spend the rest of my days working for the automotive industry trying to get them to pay my invoices.

No you won't. Trust me.
 

amish

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She just got her CPA actually.

In NJ, she had to necessary hours (or something) to get CPA (already passed test).

But since we moved to NYC, NYC doesn't require the hours. So she received her cool crisp certificate in mail few weeks ago. She's been with PwC for less than a year.

Okay, no more revealing about our personal life. :\ Gaining nothing.

agreed, we're gaining nothing. have fun with future busy seasons. my wife feels your pain.
 

Brovane

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That is why salary positions suck. I get paid by the hour and I make six figures. More hours = more pay. Especially after 12 hours when you get double time.
 

JTsyo

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Friend of mine is heading to Afghanistan. 12hr/day, 7days/week for 6 months.
 

Ns1

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based on this thread, I'm happy I stopped pursuing a public accounting career.
 

TuxDave

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For an accountant, that bad but clearly not the worst ever. I have CPA friends that basically are doing 6am --> 11pm 7 days a week for the 2 months before April 15th.
 

Gibson486

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Man, I would kill to get a job at PWC.

Most people would, but then when they get there, they just want to kill themselves. Almost everyone I know that worked at a big 4 firm has already quit. The only person that I know of that still works there is my cousin and she is getting ready to jump ship or else when will jump off a building.
 

Dr. Detroit

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No you won't. Trust me.

$100K in bumfukt nowhere is great money! But of course, everyone wants more!

$100K in LA, SD or Silicon Valley is surviving with a bit of play money and being able to fund your 401K. Starting wages for Big 4 here is $52- $54K, and are supposedly the 2nd highest paid market aside from NYC.

Crazy that starting wage for Big 4 has barely increased in 12yrs.
 

vital

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Does anyone know if the long hours are typically just Big 4 in NYC? What if you were to work for Corporate in NYC as opposed to public?
 

Ns1

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Does anyone know if the long hours are typically just Big 4 in NYC? What if you were to work for Corporate in NYC as opposed to public?

long hours are typical of any major public accounting firm, not just big 4.