Man loses million dollar job after posting Youtube video

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Lifer
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I wouldn't want to work for him, with him, or hire him after a stunt like that. Not saying he deserves to live in a van down by the river, but this the kind of thing a relatively young, foolish, and inexperienced person would do. Not mid 30-something executive with a family.
 

Exterous

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I agree. He was mean to someone & made the dumb decision to share his recorded actions with other people on the Internet, but at the end of the day, he didn't kill anyone or hurt anyone physically, and he still has 4 kids and a wife to support, so should he be punished forever & ever for that? At the end of the day, he made some (really) bad decisions. It sounds like he's learned his lesson - he still holds to his point-of-view, but regrets the way he expressed them.

It might depend on what kind of jobs he is looking for. If I have to wonder if hes learned from his mistake I am probably not going to have him be my CFO. AR\AP drone maybe but not CFO
 

Nashemon

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Other than him uploading a video, I'm not sure what the big deal is. I mean, I feel for the worker; It's not her fault. She's nothing to do with what he's berating her for. But, jackasses do this all the time to customer service workers. Nothing happens to them. No one sticks up for them. The worker mutters "what an asshole" under their breath and takes the next customer.

Sure I'm glad something was actually done about it this time. It should happen more often when someone does act like this. In real life, you might get someone in line to step in and tell him to cool off, but who wants to get involved with someone who you already know has a temper problem? Why risk getting shot in the parking lot later?

But back on topic, this guy was fired for uploading the video. Not for his actions. I'm sure half of his (former) coworkers at this so-called multi-million dollar job have stepped on their fair share of peons to get where they are and condone his actions just fine.
 

Attic

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Was doing what he did at the drive through his worst moment ever or just a typical bad moment for him?

If worst moment ever then it's pretty bad luck. Typical bad moment still pretty bad luck given all the bad folks out there who don't get much fallout for their poor behavior.

The family side of this guys life makes the result hard to be proud of. Though obviously you can't hire the guy without expecting his fallout to hit your business bottom line.
 

SteveGrabowski

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What a ridiculous overreaction from poor persecuted Christians. It was kind of stupid and I don't know what he was trying to accomplish by videotaping a fast food worker, but it's not like he went there and started yelling in her face, cursing at her, calling her a retard, acting aggressive, making threats, and so on.
 

kranky

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Was doing what he did at the drive through his worst moment ever or just a typical bad moment for him?

If worst moment ever then it's pretty bad luck. Typical bad moment still pretty bad luck given all the bad folks out there who don't get much fallout for their poor behavior.

The family side of this guys life makes the result hard to be proud of. Though obviously you can't hire the guy without expecting his fallout to hit your business bottom line.

Well, he videoed it and uploaded it of his own accord, so I have to conclude he was OK with what he did, and even expected support for it. This is not "bad luck".

Bad luck is when you had a terrible day at work, your father is dying, your dog ran away, and when you hit the drive-thru the employee mangles your order and you have to repeat it three times, then because you're at your breaking point you say "Dude, you're a complete idiot" at the window, and the complete idiot uploads the video that you didn't even know was being taken.
 

Attic

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Well, he videoed it and uploaded it of his own accord, so I have to conclude he was OK with what he did, and even expected support for it. This is not "bad luck".

Bad luck is when you had a terrible day at work, your father is dying, your dog ran away, and when you hit the drive-thru the employee mangles your order and you have to repeat it three times, then because you're at your breaking point you say "Dude, you're a complete idiot" at the window, and the complete idiot uploads the video that you didn't even know was being taken.

Yea true. The upload showed clear and consistent intent from this guy.
 

SlitheryDee

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Who would trust a moron like that with a million dollar job? What good is chewing out the minimum wage worker who probably doesn't give one shit what chic-fil-a's millionaire owners are for or against? Clearly they don't have that many choices for employment anyway, so how can you blame them for taking a paycheck where they can get it? His entire argument is ostensibly coming from a place of empathy and understanding with the LGBT community. How can he fail so spectacularly to then empathize with the person he was chewing out? The truth probably is that he just glossed over that little inconsistency because it got in the way of a stunt that he thought was going to get a lot of hits on youtube. Hits that he presumably didn't even need for advertising money because of his million dollar job.

It's completely senseless and deserving of ridicule, but I wouldn't fire him for it either. The people sending him threats are morons as well. Just boycott his youtube channel and move on. He's the rare combination of idiot and attention whore that is so easy to hate, but you don't have to expose yourself to him if you don't want to.
 
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Kaido

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It might depend on what kind of jobs he is looking for. If I have to wonder if hes learned from his mistake I am probably not going to have him be my CFO. AR\AP drone maybe but not CFO

Yeah, that's a good point.

Also makes you wonder how hard he was trying to get a job. A lot of people are fixated on one career path, no matter how bad their circumstances get. I've had to work in everything from food service to retail to tech support to make ends meet between jobs & between college classes...work is out there if you're willing to take it.

Although in some cases it's better economically to take food stamps & whatnot, at least until it runs out. Way back in the day, my buddy was fired (for being an idiot) from a job we worked at together; iirc he made $13/hr and made out on unemployment at $12.50/hr with less taxes, so he actually ended up making more money by staying home & doing nothing. Downside is he became a loaf & gained 60 pounds :D
 

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Lifer
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It was on 20/20 with other crazy work related stories. The guy attacked a store clerk who had absolutely no policy making influence -- ok. So he wants the people to stand up against oppression and walk out on the hand the feeds them...ok power to him. But video taping it and you-tubing it to embarrass a 17 year-old clerk? Not exactly the most reasonable way of doing it. That's almost as radical as most congressmen who walk out on their jobs and get them back with interest when the polling results come in.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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What a ridiculous overreaction from poor persecuted Christians. It was kind of stupid and I don't know what he was trying to accomplish by videotaping a fast food worker, but it's not like he went there and started yelling in her face, cursing at her, calling her a retard, acting aggressive, making threats, and so on.

His employer fired him without hesitation. I don't think Christians did that to him.
 

Gunbuster

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Also what kind of CFO plan is taking them for a $0.04 cup of water? Really turning the knife there buddy... Way to think big!
 

Ichinisan

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...and since his act seems like a blatant attempt at attention-whoring, that would make you wonder if the claimed "threats" are exaggerated sensationalism. Can't really know for sure, but it makes you wonder.
 

Aikouka

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I've talked about the situation in another thread, but to summarize my opinion...

He did a dumb thing, but I don't think the "punishment" fits the "crime".

Seriously, I've never understood this.

People consider a worker to be a representative of the company, and it's far, far worse if you're just a faceless representative (phone, Internet, etc.). I remember calling up Verizon one time, and the CSR literally thanked me for being a pleasant caller. She said that she was glad that I was her last call of the day. While we were waiting for her manager to take care of my issue (I had a contract on my iPad when I didn't buy one on contract), we were just chatting like ol' pals.
 
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He did a dumb thing, but I don't think the "punishment" fits the "crime".

I'm all for private activities being separate from work. But once the bomb threats come in, then my private activities are effecting the ability of my company to function, and I'm an insurance liability, which means it's in the financial best interests of my company to let me go.

What should ALSO happen is that anybody who made a bomb threat or sent a threatening email/voicemail, should be brought up on terrorism charges. But that'll never happen.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
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I'm all for private activities being separate from work. But once the bomb threats come in, then my private activities are effecting the ability of my company to function, and I'm an insurance liability, which means it's in the financial best interests of my company to let me go.

What should ALSO happen is that anybody who made a bomb threat or sent a threatening email/voicemail, should be brought up on terrorism charges. But that'll never happen.

Ah, it seems my comment wasn't as clear as it should have been. I mentioned in the other thread that I don't blame his employer. I blame the people that are overreacting over this guy's comments, and the ludicrous nature of calling in bomb threats over a guy telling a cashier that she's "too good to be working there." It's just crazy to go to that length over a dumb, silly video. So, the "punishment" mentioned above is more or less referring to the overreaction, and what resulted from it.

Honestly, I just wish that people would stop being so crazy over what are small, inconsequential events in the world. These people are going to die from a heart attack when something huge happens if they flip out this much over a guy making a level-headed rant (in regard to his volume, not necessarily the subject).