Man.....Is nobody else enjoying watchin' this stock market swan dive?????

Starbuck1975

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Increase the date range to say 1988 and then come back to the thread. Anyone can scale a graph to further a particular conclusion. A simple moving average trendline on the Dow shows fairly stable market behavior.
 

dullard

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:confused: There are a couple of threads on the stock market on the first page of Off Topic right now.

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redgtxdi

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Uh oh...........Noooooooooooooo, it's creeping up!!!! Now I'm starting to get sad!!!


I want a 500 point drop!!! Want the SEC to have to shut the market down for the day!!! Haven't had one of those in a long time!!! :D


Glad the "Harbingers of Doom" can be found here!!! That gives me a "warm fuzzy"!

:sun::D:cool:
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Harbingers of doom????

Anybody???

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/ch...1&D7=&D6=&D3=0&ShowChtBt=Refresh+Chart

Nothing new here, DOW back below 11,000, normal according to this Regime's supporters.

Typical dave fearmongering. You go girl!



Shouldn't you be checking for terrorist boogeymen under your bed?

Go back to pissing your pants already.

Here is a 9/11 pic, get busy.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Shouldn't you be checking for terrorist boogeymen under your bed?

Go back to pissing your pants already.

Here is a 9/11 pic, get busy.

Yeah, because I am so obviously a blind bush supporter. I am obviously pro-war too. Nice way to troll, ignore everything I say and make your own conclusions. It isn't too surprising considering the fact that you couldn't even back up your statements in the Chavez thread, or anything else.

 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Shouldn't you be checking for terrorist boogeymen under your bed?

Go back to pissing your pants already.

Here is a 9/11 pic, get busy.

Yeah, because I am so obviously a blind bush supporter. I am obviously pro-war too. Nice way to troll, ignore everything I say and make your own conclusions. It isn't too surprising considering the fact that you couldn't even back up your statements in the Chavez thread, or anything else.



And you are too lazy to search for stuff that has been adressed a million times, I see you took a few seconds to search google though. Now try that on the forum and you will be golden. :thumbsup:

As to not being a bush supporter, waah, join the line of new "indpendents" and overnight libertarians in here, still does not change your outlook.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
And you are too lazy to search for stuff that has been adressed a million times, I see you took a few seconds to search google though. Now try that on the forum and you will be golden. :thumbsup:

As to not being a bush supporter, waah, join the line of new "indpendents" and overnight libertarians in here, still does not change your outlook.

I searched, couldn't find anything credible.


Thus is the arrogance of people. You think because you were an "original thinker" that you are somehow morally superior to anybody else. This is the ultimate stupidity of somebody who cannot grasp that instead of making enemies and pissing people off, you should be working with them to get them to understand your position.

Who cares if people are new "independants" or overnight libertarians. They are people who are more to your side than Bush's, why not embrace them and try to get them more towards your side.

Of course, you think you are so much better, so you refuse to even acknowledge that they may be able to help.

Me, personally, am nowhere near an "overnight" libertarian. If you bothered to read any posts, or ask me, instead of just attacking, you would realize I am quite a bit more than that.

Lash out in your blind rage troll.

 

Steeplerot

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I am sure you are no such thing. :laugh:

Anyhow, why bother making a dittohead understand, it is already in black and whites for years now, and you all still swill the kool-aid.

It gets to the point where you realize you are going to not go anywhere until you kick back at the pricks, when the right stops the lies and endless attacks on character and stops goosestepping all over my country then fine, until then its on, its a shame the so-called opposition does not do the same.

Being nice = enabler for pussified leftist stereotypes nowdays

And morality can cram it, defined morality (excpeting the rewriting of history and outright lying) is the greatest threat the right wants to suck us back into. It has no place in a free society but rather a individuals private choice.

Just doing my part to kick the pendulum somewhere safer back toward the center.
 

redgtxdi

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Back on topic........... ;)


The market is continuing to suck!!!


But it's not sucking enough!!!!


I want it to suck more!!!!!


(There's definitely a joke in there somewhere) :D
 

lozina

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eh it's not much really, just a few percentage points.

what is really irritating is how the Federal Reserve will make opinionated speeches during market hours. Why is this allowed to happen? They used to be disciplined and only make market influencing announcements when the market was closed (In the early 80's I think)
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Increase the date range to say 1988 and then come back to the thread. Anyone can scale a graph to further a particular conclusion. A simple moving average trendline on the Dow shows fairly stable market behavior.
How's this?
Bush takes office Jan20, 2001 Dow 10,587
Just checked, now its 5 1/2 years later Dow 10,958
Have I mentioned this terrible performance is despite 2 trillion dollars in deficit spending since 2001?
It is the worst performance by any President since.....you guessed it...Herbert Hoover.

 

redgtxdi

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Originally posted by: techs
How's this?
Bush takes office Jan20, 2001 Dow 10,587
Just checked, now its 5 1/2 years later Dow 10,958
Have I mentioned this terrible performance is despite 2 trillion dollars in deficit spending since 2001?
It is the worst performance by any President since.....you guessed it...Herbert Hoover.


Except that only makes sense if you bought 5-1/2 years ago & sold today! And even then there have been newer, more profitable investments in such instances like "EFT's" where you'd have certainly made more money in a one-time investment due to fee relief from such investments which were not available in any presidency before Bush's.



Everything in between was as traditionally money-making as ever if you dollar-cost-averaged over the last 5.5 years and/or if you actively managed your investments with dollar-cost-averaging and hedging to protect yourself you possibly made a butt load of money!

 

Starbuck1975

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How's this? Bush takes office Jan20, 2001 Dow 10,587 Just checked, now its 5 1/2 years later Dow 10,958 Have I mentioned this terrible performance is despite 2 trillion dollars in deficit spending since 2001? It is the worst performance by any President since.....you guessed it...Herbert Hoover.

I love it when people attempt to link economic growth or decline solely to the actions of a President...the market dynamics that drive the economy are so diverse that attributing them to the actions of one person is an exercise in futility...now, if you want to make an argument that Bush has not done much to sustain or improve economic growth, inflation and consumer confidence, I am with you on that one. But the DOW in and of itself is not the only indicator for such an analysis.

If you run the chart from the start of the Reagan Presidency through Bush I, you will notice steady growth on the Dow...that doesn't necessarily serve as a validation of Reagan's fiscal policies.


 
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Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Uh oh...........Noooooooooooooo, it's creeping up!!!! Now I'm starting to get sad!!!


I want a 500 point drop!!! Want the SEC to have to shut the market down for the day!!! Haven't had one of those in a long time!!! :D
*Don't feed the troll*
*Don't feed the troll*
*Don't feed the troll*

Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Ok, I'll bite. Why are you so happy to see the market go down? Did you short the DOW when it was creeping toward 11k?
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
How's this? Bush takes office Jan20, 2001 Dow 10,587 Just checked, now its 5 1/2 years later Dow 10,958 Have I mentioned this terrible performance is despite 2 trillion dollars in deficit spending since 2001? It is the worst performance by any President since.....you guessed it...Herbert Hoover.

I love it when people attempt to link economic growth or decline solely to the actions of a President...the market dynamics that drive the economy are so diverse that attributing them to the actions of one person is an exercise in futility...now, if you want to make an argument that Bush has not done much to sustain or improve economic growth, inflation and consumer confidence, I am with you on that one. But the DOW in and of itself is not the only indicator for such an analysis.

If you run the chart from the start of the Reagan Presidency through Bush I, you will notice steady growth on the Dow...that doesn't necessarily serve as a validation of Reagan's fiscal policies.


While generally true, the market hates uncertainty. The world/ME policies of the Bush administration have overshadowed the great corporate profit growth of the last few years. The high oil/energy prices created from "piss poor" policy around the world (not to mention fiscal policy) that have caused inflationary pressures resulting in interest rate hikes (and possible stagflation). Profits have been fantastic (up and average 21% last year) and productivity growth has been strong yet market growth has lagged tremendously behind (P/E ratios have fallen greatly the last few years). Uncertainity has gripped the market and for much of that, I can blame this administration and their fiscal/global policies.
 

Starbuck1975

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Uncertainity has gripped the market and for much of that, I can blame this administration and their fiscal/global policies.
No debating that fact, although one has to also look at the business models across corporate America, and the seemingly get rich quick and carpe diem mentality that has gripped our investment markets since the emergence of dot.com overnight millionaires.

We have become a society of instant gratification, as evident in our spending vs. savings mentality...while Bush is undoubtedly an economic dud, there are cultural implications as well that are quite independent of who is President.

 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Uncertainity has gripped the market and for much of that, I can blame this administration and their fiscal/global policies.
No debating that fact, although one has to also look at the business models across corporate America, and the seemingly get rich quick and carpe diem mentality that has gripped our investment markets since the emergence of dot.com overnight millionaires.

We have become a society of instant gratification, as evident in our spending vs. savings mentality...while Bush is undoubtedly an economic dud, there are cultural implications as well that are quite independent of who is President.

I can also agree with that. Prime example: Fvcking house flippers driving up real estate for the quick buck. Everyone pays for their quick gains.

:beer: