Man in wheelchair was handcuffed, left on sidewalk with his pants down

[Grunt03]

This situation is all kinds of messed up, they can't handle someone in a wheel chair?

Corrected link

 

[spidey07]

Why did he not comply with orders? Why do people still not understand that you're gonna get tased if you don't?

"Internal affairs investigators say they're looking into the complaint by 40-year-old Gregory Williams, who was arrested Sept. 11 on suspicion of domestic violence and resisting arrest."

 

[blackangst1]

yer link is messed up...puts an FTP in the beginning

thats crazy

Correct link

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Grunt03
This situation is all kinds of messed up, they can't handle someone in a wheel chair?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32...news-crime_and_courts/">Link</a>

Your link is messed up, chief.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why did he not comply with orders? Why do people still not understand that you're gonna get tased if you don't?

"Internal affairs investigators say they're looking into the complaint by 40-year-old Gregory Williams, who was arrested Sept. 11 on suspicion of domestic violence and resisting arrest."

We dont know that he didnt.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why did he not comply with orders? Why do people still not understand that you're gonna get tased if you don't?

"Internal affairs investigators say they're looking into the complaint by 40-year-old Gregory Williams, who was arrested Sept. 11 on suspicion of domestic violence and resisting arrest."

What are you quoting that for? the dude was released from jail and charges dropped from lack of evidence.

Williams spent six days in jail before prosecutors said they lacked evidence to charge him

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why did he not comply with orders? Why do people still not understand that you're gonna get tased if you don't?

"Internal affairs investigators say they're looking into the complaint by 40-year-old Gregory Williams, who was arrested Sept. 11 on suspicion of domestic violence and resisting arrest."

Also from the article:

"Williams spent six days in jail before prosecutors said they lacked evidence to charge him."

 

[Infohawk]

My hunch is that the guy could have behaved better and not have gotten tazed (although not wanting to give your child to child services is probably pretty emotional). You do have to wonder why the cops couldn't handle him though... They're might be some general tazing policy that doesn't take into account disabilities. (i.e., always taze if arrest is resisted.)

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why did he not comply with orders? Why do people still not understand that you're gonna get tased if you don't?

"Internal affairs investigators say they're looking into the complaint by 40-year-old Gregory Williams, who was arrested Sept. 11 on suspicion of domestic violence and resisting arrest."

What are you quoting that for? the dude was released from jail and charges dropped from lack of evidence.

Williams spent six days in jail before prosecutors said they lacked evidence to charge him

Because obviously there was enough to ARREST him on resisting arrest. That means he DID something to provoke being tased.

 

[CLite]

It states clearly in the article that he resisted giving his children to child services. If he was innocent then I could see him strongly trying to fight for his children not to be essentially kidnapped from him.

Of course he could just be a dirt bag child abuser, but based on the previous Walmart thread I have a generally low regard for the legality of child services.

 

[manowar821]

I fail to see how at any point in time this person needed to be tazed. Love seeing people dance around trying to support the police state, though, gives me hope for this country and its people.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: manowar821
I fail to see how at any point in time this person needed to be tazed. Love seeing people dance around trying to support the police state, though, gives me hope for this country and its people.

:thumbsup:

 

[nageov3t]

is it condescending to think that a guy in a wheelchair can't possibly pose a danger?

 

[alphatarget1]

Say Sieg Heil to the great USSA's mightly SS police force who tases people in wheelchairs!

 

[nageov3t]

he was brought in on domestic violence charges. it's not like he's a quadriplegic.

 

[Brovane]

They brought him in and then didn't have enough evidence to charge him with anything. If was resisting arrest enough to deserved to be tazed then I would think there would be more than enough evidence to charge him with something.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Brovane
They brought him in and then didn't have enough evidence to charge him with anything. If was resisting arrest enough to deserved to be tazed then I would think there would be more than enough evidence to charge him with something.

Police were only following procedure. You don't have to be committing a crime to get tased, just act like a dumbass.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Brovane
They brought him in and then didn't have enough evidence to charge him with anything. If was resisting arrest enough to deserved to be tazed then I would think there would be more than enough evidence to charge him with something.

Police were only following procedure. You don't have to be committing a crime to get tased, just act like a dumbass.

If that's procedure, it's fucked in the head, as are those who defend it. I wouldn't taze you for acting like you do.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Brovane
They brought him in and then didn't have enough evidence to charge him with anything. If was resisting arrest enough to deserved to be tazed then I would think there would be more than enough evidence to charge him with something.

Police were only following procedure. You don't have to be committing a crime to get tased, just act like a dumbass.

If that's procedure, it's fucked in the head, as are those who defend it. I wouldn't taze you for acting like you do.

That's because I pose no threat to you and I'm not trying to detain you by law.

Oh, and I'm not LEO

 

[ebaycj]

Tazing needs to carry the same significance to a police officer as being involved in a line-of-duty shooting (i.e. your ass gets kicked to the curb if it is unjustified).

Until that standard is universally enforced, we will continue to see lots of these ridiculous stories of people being tazed when they shouldn't be.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: ebaycj
Tazing needs to carry the same significance to a police officer as being involved in a line-of-duty shooting (i.e. your ass gets kicked to the curb if it is unjustified).

Until that standard is universally enforced, we will continue to see lots of these ridiculous stories of people being tazed when they shouldn't be.

WTF!

I present to you possible outcomes before the adoption of a taser. "STOP RIGHT THERE! HANDS UP!" from a citizen's point of view.

1) Run away
2) Hands up, 'what's up officer, what you want?'
3) Charge the officer with or without a weapon
4) "IDENTIFY YOURSELF as a LEO", I am ARMED, do not approach me or I will fire. Do not approach, do not take a single step toward me.

What are the outcomes of this?

#3 results in you being tazed or killed. Everything else, nothing.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: ebaycj
Tazing needs to carry the same significance to a police officer as being involved in a line-of-duty shooting (i.e. your ass gets kicked to the curb if it is unjustified).

Until that standard is universally enforced, we will continue to see lots of these ridiculous stories of people being tazed when they shouldn't be.

WTF!

I present to you possible outcomes before the adoption of a taser. "STOP RIGHT THERE! HANDS UP!" from a citizen's point of view.

1) Run away
2) Hands up, 'what's up officer, what you want?'
3) Charge the officer with or without a weapon
4) "IDENTIFY YOURSELF as a LEO", I am ARMED, do not approach me or I will fire. Do not approach, do not take a single step toward me.

What are the outcomes of this?

#3 results in you being tazed or killed. Everything else, nothing.

so the guy in the wheelchair was charging the cops?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: lupi


so the guy in the wheelchair was charging the cops?

I have no idea in this instance. Just listing the possible outcomes.

 

[LunarRay]

How about presume the Officer(s) have been trained when and when not to cause a suspect to conform to their orders. IF they have probable cause to effect an arrest then that is what they have to do. The suspect regardless of his state of mind, body or soul must comply. The Officers around this country have to do a job. Suspects can comply or not. That is their choice. But at the end of the day they WILL be arrested if that is the intention of the Officers.
That he was released is a prosecutor issue. That the Officers have Probable Cause to effect arrest is far less 'evidence' of a crime than prosecutor hurdle.
Not wanting to give up children to a CPS worker is enough cause, in most cases, to arrest a suspect. Assume the judgment was made by the CPS worker to take the children into custody. She/He has that power! Failure to comply with this order is not mitigated by his/her desire to protect the children from the CPS worker.
Society creates these laws and I'd rather see the children taken when in the judgment of the CPS worker they are in danger.
Something happened at that site, him in a wheelchair notwithstanding!

EDIT: I know the mind set of the CPS (sworn) folks - cousin and her daughter are both doing that and have for years in LA. They must protect the kids if there is ANY chance they are in danger... ANY chance. (And the Cop too, Son is SDPD and he is a good guy but if he has to arrest someone they WILL be arrested)

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: spidey07
4) "IDENTIFY YOURSELF as a LEO", I am ARMED, do not approach me or I will fire. Do not approach, do not take a single step toward me.
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wtf does this even mean?