Man, I suck at video games.... PICS

[Chaotic42]

So I'm playing Hearts of Iron. It's a World War 2 strategy game. I figure that the best country to be is Germany. After all, I don't need to have anyones permission to attack random countries.

I decide that I'm going to invade Austria in 1936. It's fairly easy, and I take it over.

Here is where I suck.

After Austria, I decide to invade Holland. What happens? They fake me out, abandon their country, and head for Berlin.

Reload.

Ok, that didn't work. What about Belgium? Well, that pisses off France. France, with their army of the Apocalypse crushes though my defences and owns Germany in 4 days.

Reload.

Same thing with Denmark.

Reload.

Ok, let's turn east. I take over Poland, and *no one does anything*. No one is mad. Nothing happens. So I build up. There are two French territories on my border. I put 35 divisions in each of three bordering territories of my own. That's 105 infantry divisions. They have 7 total. I invade.

They kill my 105 divisions!

What I'm I doing wrong? I can't invade through the lowlands, I can't invade through the maginot line.

Reload.

Now, I wait. I build up. I become very, very, very strong (so I think). I don't do *anything* hostile. Jan 1, 1938 rolls around.

England and France invade me.

:sigh:



Edit:

Ok, I've finally got the hang of it. I own France and England, and St. Johns in Canada (which only has one port of access to the mainland. That's stupid.) Anyway here are the pics:

Here's the start of the game- Just to give you an idea of what the game looks like. It's not graphics intensive, but I think it looks really good.

Now I've got the Netherlands- You can see that I'm building up for invading Belgium. I actually didn't do so for a while.

The weather in my home state- Rain on the Gulf Coast. This game *is* accurate.

Finally!- Notice that I didn't touch the Maginot line. In fact, it was *damn* difficult to take it over after I had the whole of France. It has a fortification of 10, which would take like 8 years to build in the game.

Here's the latest development- I took this right before I exited. The British Navy is beating me up, so I've got 25 battleships on order.

It really is a good game. If you have any questions, let me know. It's a contender for my favorite game. I've been wanting one like it for *years*.

 

[Nothinman]

France has an army?

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
France has an army?

France has a bad ass super efficient robot army in this game.

My poor Germans can't hang, except for in the air.

 

[Harabecw]

hahahahahahahaha
funny post.
can you post some screenies of the game?

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Harabecw
hahahahahahahaha
funny post.
can you post some screenies of the game?

I will when I get home at 6am (central/EST).

 

[Harabecw]

there's no demo for this...can't try it
oh well.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Harabecw

there's no demo for this...can't try it
oh well.

Yeah, it's a pretty obscure game. Not very graphics intensive at all, but fun. It was $40 at Walmart. I think it was worth it.

 

[DaMutha]

I object. You can't start a BF1942 clan and then abandon us for another game! We haven't even gotten organized yet!

We are the stealth clan.

 

[Harabecw]

heh, like ghost lance in my own MW4 clan.
they never show up, so they automatically win

 

[microAmp]

Originally posted by: DaMutha
I object. You can't start a BF1942 clan and then abandon us for another game! We haven't even gotten organized yet!

We are the stealth clan.

Yeah! No kidding.

 

[microAmp]

Reminds me of Axis & Allies in a way. Looks intresting.

 

[notfred]

I've never heard of this game but it sounds like fun

 

[Malladine]

Seemed like a steep learning curve. I didn't have the patience to learn this or Europa Universalis 1/2 when I first tried a few months ago. Maybe I should try again

That's 105 infantry divisions. They have 7 total. I invade.

They kill my 105 divisions!

That can't be right...maybe they had some armoured divisions?

Noone was mad you invaded poland? Hmm, methinks the developers are trying to force the player through the actual progression of WW2.

(Hey, 500 posts )

 

[TheOmegaCode]

Noone was mad you invaded poland? Hmm, methinks the developers are trying to force the player through the actual progression of WW2.

That wasn't the actual progress of WW2. England and France are supposed to get "mad."

What I'm I doing wrong? I can't invade through the lowlands, I can't invade through the maginot line.

Well, in real life the Germans went around the Maginot Line to the west, through the "impenetrable" Ardennes forest.

Poor Neutral Belgium, twice have they been Germany's highway into France...

 

[yukichigai]

Historical accuracy is all well and good but it kinda detracts from the freedom of the game, don't you think. As far as I'm concerned if the develpers are trying to force you to proceed along the historical line they should have just made a bunch of cutscenes instead instead of wasting time programming.

 

[TheOmegaCode]

Originally posted by: yukichigai
Historical accuracy is all well and good but it kinda detracts from the freedom of the game, don't you think. As far as I'm concerned if the develpers are trying to force you to proceed along the historical line they should have just made a bunch of cutscenes instead instead of wasting time programming.

Most of the time they do it up to a point, then you get to see it would have happened had you been calling the shots

 

[exp]

I decide that I'm going to invade Austria in 1936. It's fairly easy, and I take it over.

FYI you don't necessarily need to invade Austria because Anschluss is a very common event, and when it happens you pick up Austria for free.

After Austria, I decide to invade Holland. What happens? They fake me out, abandon their country, and head for Berlin.

You mean they leave their territory before you arrive and slip behind your invasion force? That's a common, annoying tactic the computer uses if you don't have a defending force on your borders. So just leave a screen of delaying troops behind your advancing army. If the Dutch try to sneak attack they'll be held up, and while they're struggling to break through you can turn your main army around and smash them (it's like the hammer & anvil...they're doomed).

What about Belgium? Well, that pisses off France. France, with their army of the Apocalypse crushes though my defences and owns Germany in 4 days.

Same thing with Denmark.

Of course...they're all joined together in the alliance. Naturally if you attack one, all the other Allies join in. Oddly enough, I've noticed that early in the game sometimes after attacking one weaker ally you can sue for peace with other members of the alliance seperately, allowing you to wipe that one country out with no repercussions from their more powerful allies. Could be a bug.

So I build up. There are two French territories on my border. I put 35 divisions in each of three bordering territories of my own. That's 105 infantry divisions. They have 7 total. I invade.

They kill my 105 divisions!

Ouch...I never tried attacking the maginot line, and now I'm glad I didn't.

Now, I wait. I build up. I become very, very, very strong (so I think). I don't do *anything* hostile. Jan 1, 1938 rolls around.

England and France invade me.

All major countries and most minor ones have a value called "War Entry" that determines their likelihood to declare war on Germany (you can see it in the diplomatic screen when you click on each country's territory). Once it reaches 100 they will attack you, and since the WE value increases over time, they will end up attacking even if you've been perfectly peaceful (I guess they just hate fascists). Some actions increase WE, such as annexing territory or attacking democratic countries. You can also lower it through certain random events, and I've heard that attacking fascist countries also lowers it. But no matter what they will eventually declare war on you so be prepared.

 

[Malladine]

That wasn't the actual progress of WW2. England and France are supposed to get "mad."

What I meant was it seems they're forcing the player into that step by making it by far the easiest to begin with...

*shrug* Wouldn't know really though, as I haven't played the game for more than 1 hr and I spent most of that time just discovering how many things I could do.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: DaMutha
I object. You can't start a BF1942 clan and then abandon us for another game! We haven't even gotten organized yet!

We are the stealth clan.

Well, we only play when I'm asleep

Sorry I didn't post screenshots. I loaded the game up and boom.

Power failure. I'll post some later.

 

[Chaotic42]

Oh, by the way, does anyone know how to load troops up on ships? I can't seem to do it. I'll post some shots soon.

 

[microAmp]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Oh, by the way, does anyone know how to load troops up on ships? I can't seem to do it. I'll post some shots soon.

Do you know how to merge units together? Instead of having 5 single divisions and having to move each one to a same square, you can merge them together. Maybe the same way with transports? I have yet to try loading on transports, I only realized after defeating Poland that I had transport plants :|

You convinced me to buy this game

 

[exp]

does anyone know how to load troops up on ships?

Just have your ships at sea in a coastal region and walk your troops onto them...it takes time and you'll see them walking, just like when moving on land. But remember that the land from which your troops embark must have a port or beach, otherwise it won't work.

 

[Chaotic42]

Bump for pics.

 

[microAmp]

You weren't kidding about France being a PITA! Every time I go attack in Northen France they reinforce it with 10+ divisions.

This game has definitely filled my void of a strategic WWII game, like Panzer General did before.

How many hours did it take you to knock out France? not including the Maginot line.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: motoamd
You weren't kidding about France being a PITA! Every time I go attack in Northen France they reinforce it with 10+ divisions.

This game has definitely filled my void of a strategic WWII game, like Panzer General did before.

How many hours did it take you to knock out France? not including the Maginot line.

Hmm, probably 2.5. I started in April of 1937 or so, and I think I got done in early 1938.

England was a joke. I just invaded through Scappa Flow. It literally took about 3 weeks. Be careful though. The citizens can riot. This happened in London. They formed like 25 infantry battallions. I had to reload, and now I'm shipping over units like crazy.

I haven't played a game this much since Silent Service 2. I can't wait to get home and play some more. You're next, Italy!