Man, I can't wait for my motherboard to get back from RMA| Edit: Arrggghhh!!!!!

[Chaotic42]

I'm usually on dual 1800+s, but my motherboard's PS/2 slots are screwed up, look in GH for the post. Anyway, I'm stuck on dual Celery 333s with 160MB of memory. Talk about seeing a difference:

top (668x412 JPEG 140KB)

It takes about 4 seconds to change focus on Mozilla windows.



Damn it!

The problem still exists. It's got to be some issue with the design of the motherboard.

 

[Heisenberg]

You running gnome?

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
You running gnome?

1.4 with sawfish.

Here's a full screenshot

 

[manly]

Granted XUL isn't fast, but 4 s to change window focus sounds incredibly unaccelerated. Do any other apps behave as poorly?

 

[Heisenberg]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
You running gnome?

1.4 with sawfish.

Here's a full screenshot

Both gnome and kde are such resource hogs. I went from kde to fluxbox on a PII 400 with 256MB and the difference was pretty big.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: manly
Granted XUL isn't fast, but 4 s to change window focus sounds incredibly unaccelerated. Do any other apps behave as poorly?

Well remember that I'm running F@H and XMMS at the same time. 4s is at the long end, but it has happened quite a few times this week.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
You running gnome?

1.4 with sawfish.

Here's a full screenshot

Both gnome and kde are such resource hogs. I went from kde to fluxbox on a PII 400 with 256MB and the difference was pretty big.

Meh, I like GNOME. It's slower, but it's not an issue with my 1533's. Just comes back to bite me in the ass with the 333's.

 

[manly]

GNOME 1.4 is already a few years old and isn't that heavyweight. F@H is probably dragging the machine down interactively; xmms is only 3.5% CPU utilization according to top so it's really negligible.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: manly
GNOME 1.4 is already a few years old and isn't that heavyweight. F@H is probably dragging the machine down interactively; xmms is only 3.5% CPU utilization according to top so it's really negligible.

Well, that's because it was taking the screen shot. It stayed around 17% when it was playing.

 

[LordRaiden]

I run KDE on most of my nix boxes, Gnome on one laptop, and Ximian on another.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

I hope you're not trying to run off the same kernel as you were with the MP1800s. :Q

- M4H

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
I hope you're not trying to run off the same kernel as you were with the MP1800s. :Q

- M4H

Huh?

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
I hope you're not trying to run off the same kernel as you were with the MP1800s. :Q

- M4H

Huh?

Errr... yah. A kernel is optimized for certain chips and it isn't recommended to just switch out platforms without a full reinstall. That might be part of the perf. problems.

Jugs

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
I hope you're not trying to run off the same kernel as you were with the MP1800s. :Q

- M4H

Huh?

Errr... yah. A kernel is optimized for certain chips and it isn't recommended to just switch out platforms without a full reinstall. That might be part of the perf. problems.

Jugs

Oh, I see what he was talking about.

Yes, I know that. I recompiled it for what it needed (P2, <1GB memory, etc). I thought he meant for the new motherboard I put in today.

Edit: Wait wait wait. I'm not fully awake yet. You don't need to reinstall, just recompile, and you don't even have to do that.

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
I hope you're not trying to run off the same kernel as you were with the MP1800s. :Q

- M4H

Huh?

Errr... yah. A kernel is optimized for certain chips and it isn't recommended to just switch out platforms without a full reinstall. That might be part of the perf. problems.

Jugs

I disagree. You aren't entirely wrong, but your statement smacks of Windows OS practices that should not be followed for Linux.

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: manly

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
I hope you're not trying to run off the same kernel as you were with the MP1800s. :Q

- M4H

Huh?

Errr... yah. A kernel is optimized for certain chips and it isn't recommended to just switch out platforms without a full reinstall. That might be part of the perf. problems.

Jugs

I disagree. You aren't entirely wrong, but your statement smacks of Windows OS practices that should not be followed for Linux.

Ummmm, no...

You should always recompile the kernel when switching platforms as certain performance features are enabled with each architecture. Do this, when you compile your next kernel, compile it for a 486. Then run some benchmarks and performance tests. Now recompile for the chip that is actually in the computer (IE: Pentium class, Athlon, etc.) you will see a performance increase.

Jugs

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Jugernot


Ummmm, no...

You should always recompile the kernel when switching platforms as certain performance features are enabled with each architecture. Do this, when you compile your next kernel, compile it for a 486. Then run some benchmarks and performance tests. Now recompile for the chip that is actually in the computer (IE: Pentium class, Athlon, etc.) you will see a performance increase.

Jugs

Yes, but you don't have to reinstall the system, just recompile the kernel.

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
I hope you're not trying to run off the same kernel as you were with the MP1800s. :Q

- M4H

Huh?

Errr... yah. A kernel is optimized for certain chips and it isn't recommended to just switch out platforms without a full reinstall. That might be part of the perf. problems.

Jugs

Oh, I see what he was talking about.

Yes, I know that. I recompiled it for what it needed (P2, <1GB memory, etc). I thought he meant for the new motherboard I put in today.

Edit: Wait wait wait. I'm not fully awake yet. You don't need to reinstall, just recompile, and you don't even have to do that.

Recompile is what I meant... not reinstall. My typo..

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Jugernot


Recompile is what I meant... not reinstall. My typo..

Ah, ok.

Yeah, I recompiled. It was slow as heck, but I got it done.

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Jugernot


Recompile is what I meant... not reinstall. My typo..

Ah, ok.

Yeah, I recompiled. It was slow as heck, but I got it done.

Did you notice a meaningful performance increase? While I agree that the kernel is one thing worth recompiling to optimize performance, saying you should always recompile it when you change platforms is reminiscent of saying Gentoo is flat out faster than other distros. More myth than reality.

I don't have an SMP system, but AFAIK the major distros do not differentiate a SMP kernel for P6 vs Athlon. IMO 98% of all users does just fine with one of the standard supported kernels from their vendor.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: manly

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Jugernot


Recompile is what I meant... not reinstall. My typo..

Ah, ok.

Yeah, I recompiled. It was slow as heck, but I got it done.

Did you notice a meaningful performance increase? While I agree that the kernel is one thing worth recompiling to optimize performance, saying you should always recompile it when you change platforms is reminiscent of saying Gentoo is flat out faster than other distros. More myth than reality.

I don't have an SMP system, but AFAIK the major distros do not differentiate a SMP kernel for P6 vs Athlon. IMO 98% of all users does just fine with one of the standard supported kernels from their vendor.

I had to boot a generic kernel to disable 1GB+ memory. The Athlon kernel had it, because I have 1280MB of memory. The Celeron has 160, so the Athlon kernel wouldn't boot at all.

 

[shopbruin]

man i still need to figure out how to fix everything for mine - the battery died and i brilliantly pulled it out for two days.

so of course everything was reset and i have no idea how to fix it.