Man has 25 kids, wanted in 2 states for back support

[Texashiker]

Do you have any information showing that the women in this story aren't doing their part to provide for this guy's kids?

Please, the news is not going to talk about that. It is taboo to talk about requiring women to get a job and support their children.

Have you seen the video I posted? Did you hear her say "someone gotta pay for my kids."

Not I need a job. Not I need a trade school or college to get a better job. Not will someone please hire me so I can provide for my kids.

Not the same woman as in the opening post. But it is the same cultural mindset.

 

[MrPickins]

Please, the news is not going to talk about that. It is taboo to talk about requiring women to get a job and support their children.

Have you seen the video I posted? Did you hear her say "someone gotta pay for my kids."

Not I need a job. Not I need a trade school or college to get a better job. Not will someone please hire me so I can provide for my kids.

Not the same woman as in the opening post. But it is the same cultural mindset.

So the answer is no, but you're going to assume anyway?

Deadbeat solidarity, huh?

 

[Dannar26]

So the answer is no, but you're going to assume anyway?

Deadbeat solidarity, huh?

How familiar are you with the system you're indirectly defending by writing off hiker as some kind of misogynistic dee bag?

 

[MrPickins]

How familiar are you with the system you're indirectly defending by writing off hiker as some kind of misogynistic dee bag?

TH has been written off in my mind for a long time, based on his posting history.

As for the system, I never said it was perfect. What I have said in this thread is that TH is a moron for turning this around on the women when this man is the one refusing to pay child support.

Women are sexual objects, always have been, always will be. Don't like it, too bad.

Sounds like a "misogynistic dee bag" to me...

 

[Texashiker]

TH has been written off in my mind for a long time, based on his posts.

As for the system, I never said it was perfect. What I have said in this thread is that TH is a moron for turning this around on the women when this man is the one refusing to pay child support.

I just ask that men and women be held to the same standard of responsibility.

Of the people in jail for not paying child support, around 80% are men.

If men can be thrown in jail for not providing financial support, then so should the mothers. If the mother does not work to support her child, she needs to go to jail.

You did not answer the question.

Do you, or do you not have first hand experience with child support courts?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I just ask that men and women be held to the same standard of responsibility.

Of the people in jail for not paying child support, around 80% are men.

If men can be thrown in jail for not providing financial support, then so should the mothers. If the mother does not work to support her child, she needs to go to jail.

Because women have custody over 80% of the time?

 

[MrPickins]

I just ask that men and women be held to the same standard of responsibility.

Then he should aslo have to stick around for all the day-to-day responsibilities/tasks. Money is nice, but is only a part of the equation.

Of the people in jail for not paying child support, around 80% are men.

And what percentage of men have primary custody?

But the Nebraska Administrative Office of the Courts recently reported that from 2002 to 2012, mothers were awarded sole or primary custody in 72 per cent of child custody cases.

http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/cour...cle_23510cfa-ec6f-5a94-accb-bea7e7ec6c7b.html

If 72% of the time, the man has to pay child support, it's not surprising that the vast majority of prosecutions for failure to pay said support would be of the father.

 

[Texashiker]

And what percentage of men have primary custody?

I just ask that men and women are held to the same standard of responsibility.

Custody does not excuse laziness.

 

[MrPickins]

I just ask that men and women are held to the same standard of responsibility.

Custody does not excuse laziness.

And I ask that you learn math.



(And common sense.)

 

[MrPickins]

Custody does not excuse laziness.

This appears to be the crux of your argument when it comes to child support.

You think that money == effort.


It does, but only partially. Raising a child requires a hell of a lot more effort than cutting a check every month.

 

[Texashiker]

And I ask that you learn math.

(And common sense.)

This appears to be the crux of your argument when it comes to child support.

You think that money == effort.


It does, but only partially. Raising a child requires a hell of a lot more effort than cutting a check every month.

You were asked a question a few post back, please answer.

Do you or do you not have first hand experience with child support courts?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

You were asked a question a few post back, please answer.

Do you or do you not have first hand experience with child support courts?

He already did. you've ignored the basic math. Let's say men and women don't pay equally, and 80% of mothers have custody that means 8 men for every 2 women are support payers. If they equally do not pay that means 8 men for every 2 women would be subject to action for not paying giving you your 80%.

 

[MrPickins]

You were asked a question a few post back, please answer.

Do you or do you not have first hand experience with child support courts?

Irrelevant, but yes.

My first father was a deadbeat, and my mother worked her ass off take care of 3 kids after he left.

 

[MrPickins]

So, I answered your question, how about you answer mine:

Do you think that your support check equals the effort your ex-wife put into your children on a daily basis?

If not, is it more effort or less?

 

[Texashiker]

Irrelevant, but yes.

My first father was a deadbeat, and my mother worked her ass off take care of 3 kids after he left.

I am sorry to hear about your dad.

Glad your mom stepped up.

He already did. you've ignored the basic math. Let's say men and women don't pay equally, and 80% of mothers have custody that means 8 men for every 2 women are support payers. If they equally do not pay that means 8 men for every 2 women would be subject to action for not paying giving you your 80%.

You are ignoring inequality in divorce courts and laws.

Having custody of the child should not give someone a free pass to be lazy. Do not stand there with our hand out asking "who is going to take car of my kids."

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I am sorry to hear about your dad.

Glad your mom stepped up.




You are ignoring inequality in divorce courts and laws.

Having custody of the child should not give someone a free pass to be lazy. Do not stand there with our hand out asking "who is going to take car of my kids."

Effort is irrelevant to a non-custodial parent having an obligation to the child. YOu seem to be looking at things from a mother/father perspective. The court looks at the needs of the child. You pay your due irrelevant of any thing else.

 

[MrPickins]

I am sorry to hear about your dad.

Glad your mom stepped up.

Thanks. She really did.

My (I don't call him step-)dad really stepped up when he married my mom and adopted all three of us without a single complaint.

That's the kind of man I aspire to be.

You are ignoring inequality in divorce courts and laws.

Having custody of the child should not give someone a free pass to be lazy. Do not stand there with our hand out asking "who is going to take car of my kids."

Now you're mixing child support and welfare. Let's stay on topic here.

 

[Texashiker]

Effort is irrelevant to a non-custodial parent having an obligation to the child. YOu seem to be looking at things from a mother/father perspective. The court looks at the needs of the child. You pay your due irrelevant of any thing else.

The non-custodial parent gets to stand with their hand out and society excuses their laziness.

Do not have children if you are unable to provide for them. That goes for the father and mother.

 

[alzan]

Irrelevant, but yes.

My first father was a deadbeat, and my mother worked her ass off take care of 3 kids after he left.

Your father was TH?!?

"I grieve with thee."

 

[MrPickins]

So, I answered your question, how about you answer mine:

Do you think that your support check equals the effort your ex-wife put into your children on a daily basis?

If not, is it more effort or less?

No answer?

Why am I not surprised?

 

[zinfamous]

We need a social safety net that works.

Uh huh...

 

[Texashiker]

Your father was TH?!?

"I grieve with thee."

Piss off.

I took care of my children.

 

[alzan]

Piss off.

I took care of my children.

Writing a check does not a father make

 

[Texashiker]

Writing a check does not a father make

Again, piss off.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2172539

I spent quality time with my kids,

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Do you or do you not have first hand experience with child support courts?

Yes, the child support that was assessed was fair for the amount I made. Later when I got custody of my child I didn't request child support from my ex-wife as she made just enough to cover her expenses and have a couple hundred left over for discretionary spending.