Man files for patents on WHEEL

Mar 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: British Broadcasting Corporation
An Australian man has registered a patent for a "circular transportation facilitation device" - more commonly known as the wheel.

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Did you even read the article? I completely agree with what he's doing.
 

bsobel

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The topic and summary is BS, he's filing a patent, completely different from receiving one. Anyone can file a patent on whatever they want, repost this drivel if he actually gets it.
 

Kelemvor

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The whole patent process needs to be completely wiped out and started over with some common sense rules in place. It's such a joke these days that people patent an idea but never do anything to make it a reality. Then when someone else makes something they go sue them for patent infringement. Whatever.

Why work hard for your money when you can sue someone who worked hard for theirs?
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
The whole patent process needs to be completely wiped out and started over with some common sense rules in place. It's such a joke these days that people patent an idea but never do anything to make it a reality. Then when someone else makes something they go sue them for patent infringement. Whatever.

Why work hard for your money when you can sue someone who worked hard for theirs?

I agree. I think patents with a short lifespan are the way to go. They only hold our soceity back.
 

bsobel

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patent infrigement?

This thread is useless, someone filed a patent, whoop-de-do (sp?). Lets at least rant about issue patents. People here seem to think that because this was filed there is a chance in hell it will be granted, it doesn't work like that (at all).
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Damn, if it went through, he would be so freaking rich...

:roll: No he wouldn't.

patent infrigement?

and he would llose any suit he would try to bring.


but i agree with the guy filling for it. IF he gets it and try's to sue anyone it will be in the news. and prove that the system is screwed up.

 

chusteczka

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The originally posted story from July 2, 2001 claims a patent has been registered.

Here is another article from July 2, 2001 that claims an Innovation Patent was issued even though the Commissioner of Patents Vivienne Thom stated:
To obtain the patent for a wheel would require a false claim, which is a very serious matter and would certainly invalidate the patent as well as amounting to a misrepresentation on the part of the applicant and unprofessional conduct by any professional advisor.
Patent Lawyer Keogh is quoted as stating
The name should be changed [from Innovation Patent] to "Registered Innovation" to avoid confusion with standard patents.

In this article from July 3, 2001, it is stated the Australian patent office issued the Innovation Patent but the patent would be difficult to uphold if tested in court. It is suggested the term "Innovation Patent" is misleading.

This copy of the wheel Innovation Patent document shows the Innovation Patent for the wheel was granted by the Australian Patent Office and further states
After an innovation patent has been granted, the owner or any person may request examination, and such examination must occur before the owner can commence or threaten to commence infringement proceedings.

This forum post states there is a difference between an Australian "patent lawyer" and a "patent attorney" but does not explain the difference. This forum post further quotes an article that is no longer archived that briefly states the difference between an Australian standard patent, innovation patent, and petty patent.
Standard patents have to be crafted by a registered patent lawyer who has engineering or science qualifications. Patents must also show an inventive step, a significant advance. The innovation patent, which replaces the petty patent, has to show only an innovative step and can be prepared without professional help.

The United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) does not operate in this manner with multiple levels of patents and any similar issues derived from such multiple patent levels would be improperly inferred. However, it is well known through the industry that ambiguous, gray areas do exist in the real world where black and white positions are seldom available. These articles are merely exposing the Australian Patent Office's imperfect attempt to address some of these gray areas.
 

iamaelephant

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Originally posted by: Printer Bandit
Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: British Broadcasting Corporation
An Australian man has registered a patent for a "circular transportation facilitation device" - more commonly known as the wheel.

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Did you even read the article? I completely agree with what he's doing.

Really? As far as I can see he is just a patent lawyer who is afraid of losing a large chunk of his income.

Mr Keogh said it represented the government caving in to claimants who said it was too expensive to obtain a standard patent.

"The government decided to find a way to issue a patent more easily," he said.

He isn't doing this for the good of the system he is doing it because these new laws might make him slightly less rich.