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Man: Ex-wife's sex change should end alimony

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Bumrush99

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Ewwwww

I'm all for gay rights, but this is ridiculous. I mean she freaking had a sex change and became a man, she obviously had some serious issues during the marriage and the poor guy should not be forced to pay alimony to her. She wants to grow a pair of balls, why not act like a man, get a job and pay for your own cr$p???
 
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Ewwwww

I'm all for gay rights, but this is ridiculous. I mean she freaking had a sex change and became a man, she obviously had some serious issues during the marriage and the poor guy should not be forced to pay alimony to her. She wants to grow a pair of balls, why not act like a man, get a job and pay for your own cr$p???
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Wow. do you not understand the point of alimony? While traditionally the man gives money to a woman, that's not the premise of alimony.

edit: Some background for you ...

Definition: A court-ordered allowance that one spouse pays to the other spouse for maintenance and support while they are separated, while they are involved in a matrimonial lawsuit, or after they are divorced.

The Supreme Court has held unconstitutional a statute that imposed alimony obligations on the husband only.

While she may have had a sex change she is still his ex-spouse.
 
Yeah I understand the point of alimony.. Its hard enough to shell out that type of money every month, especially given this special circumstance
 
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Ewwwww

I'm all for gay rights, but this is ridiculous. I mean she freaking had a sex change and became a man, she obviously had some serious issues during the marriage and the poor guy should not be forced to pay alimony to her. She wants to grow a pair of balls, why not act like a man, get a job and pay for your own cr$p???
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Wow. do you not understand the point of alimony? While traditionally the man gives money to a woman, that's not the premise of alimony.

edit: Some background for you ...

Definition: A court-ordered allowance that one spouse pays to the other spouse for maintenance and support while they are separated, while they are involved in a matrimonial lawsuit, or after they are divorced.

The Supreme Court has held unconstitutional a statute that imposed alimony obligations on the husband only.

While she may have had a sex change she is still his ex-spouse.
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But if she is now declaring herself to be a Man (legally), then she can't be his ex-spouse anymore....
 
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Ewwwww

I'm all for gay rights, but this is ridiculous. I mean she freaking had a sex change and became a man, she obviously had some serious issues during the marriage and the poor guy should not be forced to pay alimony to her. She wants to grow a pair of balls, why not act like a man, get a job and pay for your own cr$p???
Click to expand...

Wow. do you not understand the point of alimony? While traditionally the man gives money to a woman, that's not the premise of alimony.

edit: Some background for you ...

Definition: A court-ordered allowance that one spouse pays to the other spouse for maintenance and support while they are separated, while they are involved in a matrimonial lawsuit, or after they are divorced.

The Supreme Court has held unconstitutional a statute that imposed alimony obligations on the husband only.

While she may have had a sex change she is still his ex-spouse.
Click to expand...

But if she is now declaring herself to be a Man (legally), then she can't be his ex-spouse anymore....
Click to expand...

Oh please, do explain. I really want to hear this.
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Ewwwww

I'm all for gay rights, but this is ridiculous. I mean she freaking had a sex change and became a man, she obviously had some serious issues during the marriage and the poor guy should not be forced to pay alimony to her. She wants to grow a pair of balls, why not act like a man, get a job and pay for your own cr$p???
Click to expand...

Wow. do you not understand the point of alimony? While traditionally the man gives money to a woman, that's not the premise of alimony.

edit: Some background for you ...

Definition: A court-ordered allowance that one spouse pays to the other spouse for maintenance and support while they are separated, while they are involved in a matrimonial lawsuit, or after they are divorced.

The Supreme Court has held unconstitutional a statute that imposed alimony obligations on the husband only.

While she may have had a sex change she is still his ex-spouse.
Click to expand...

But if she is now declaring herself to be a Man (legally), then she can't be his ex-spouse anymore....
Click to expand...

Oh please, do explain. I really want to hear this.
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Legally, Two Men can't be married in the U.S. - if she has become a Man (and has legally done so) then how can she/he still be his ex-wife...

I'm not casting judgment either way - but I'm guessing that's what the Husband and his lawyers are going to argue....

/the chicken or the egg!?!
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Ewwwww

I'm all for gay rights, but this is ridiculous. I mean she freaking had a sex change and became a man, she obviously had some serious issues during the marriage and the poor guy should not be forced to pay alimony to her. She wants to grow a pair of balls, why not act like a man, get a job and pay for your own cr$p???
Click to expand...

Wow. do you not understand the point of alimony? While traditionally the man gives money to a woman, that's not the premise of alimony.

edit: Some background for you ...

Definition: A court-ordered allowance that one spouse pays to the other spouse for maintenance and support while they are separated, while they are involved in a matrimonial lawsuit, or after they are divorced.

The Supreme Court has held unconstitutional a statute that imposed alimony obligations on the husband only.

While she may have had a sex change she is still his ex-spouse.
Click to expand...

But if she is now declaring herself to be a Man (legally), then she can't be his ex-spouse anymore....
Click to expand...

Oh please, do explain. I really want to hear this.
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Obviously she is his ex wife/husband. But you will admit that this is an odd situation, I mean you live with someone for nearly 20 years and as soon as you get divorced your ex has a sex change indicating that she suffered from some severe gender issues that you probably had to deal with throughout the marriage and that you are still paying for with alimony payments after the divorce.. I wonder if his ex is going to use that money to buy a new wardrobe, I'm sure she/he needs one.
 
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Ewwwww

I'm all for gay rights, but this is ridiculous. I mean she freaking had a sex change and became a man, she obviously had some serious issues during the marriage and the poor guy should not be forced to pay alimony to her. She wants to grow a pair of balls, why not act like a man, get a job and pay for your own cr$p???
Click to expand...

Wow. do you not understand the point of alimony? While traditionally the man gives money to a woman, that's not the premise of alimony.

edit: Some background for you ...

Definition: A court-ordered allowance that one spouse pays to the other spouse for maintenance and support while they are separated, while they are involved in a matrimonial lawsuit, or after they are divorced.

The Supreme Court has held unconstitutional a statute that imposed alimony obligations on the husband only.

While she may have had a sex change she is still his ex-spouse.
Click to expand...

But if she is now declaring herself to be a Man (legally), then she can't be his ex-spouse anymore....
Click to expand...

Oh please, do explain. I really want to hear this.
Click to expand...

Legally, Two Men can't be married in the U.S. - if she has become a Man (and has legally done so) then how can she/he still be his ex-wife...

I'm not casting judgment either way - but I'm guessing that's what the Husband and his lawyers are going to argue....

/the chicken or the egg!?!
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Two men not being allowed to marry has nothing to do with it. Just because she is getting a sex-change and will now be a he, doesn't mean the person before the sex-change was legally a man all that time to. That person was legally a woman, although mentally she could've been a man.

If you could do that, then you could apply it to anything. For example, a car insurance company could sue the former woman because she was a man all along and therefore was wrongly receiving female rates when he was supposed to be receiving male rates.

Legally, it opens up a ridiculous amount of things if you can retro-actively apply the now male gender to all aspects of her the earlier part of her life as a male.
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Ewwwww

I'm all for gay rights, but this is ridiculous. I mean she freaking had a sex change and became a man, she obviously had some serious issues during the marriage and the poor guy should not be forced to pay alimony to her. She wants to grow a pair of balls, why not act like a man, get a job and pay for your own cr$p???
Click to expand...

Wow. do you not understand the point of alimony? While traditionally the man gives money to a woman, that's not the premise of alimony.

edit: Some background for you ...

Definition: A court-ordered allowance that one spouse pays to the other spouse for maintenance and support while they are separated, while they are involved in a matrimonial lawsuit, or after they are divorced.

The Supreme Court has held unconstitutional a statute that imposed alimony obligations on the husband only.

While she may have had a sex change she is still his ex-spouse.
Click to expand...

But if she is now declaring herself to be a Man (legally), then she can't be his ex-spouse anymore....
Click to expand...

Oh please, do explain. I really want to hear this.
Click to expand...

Legally, Two Men can't be married in the U.S. - if she has become a Man (and has legally done so) then how can she/he still be his ex-wife...

I'm not casting judgment either way - but I'm guessing that's what the Husband and his lawyers are going to argue....

/the chicken or the egg!?!
Click to expand...

Two men not being allowed to marry has nothing to do with it. Just because she is getting a sex-change and will now be a he, doesn't mean the person before the sex-change was legally a man all that time to. That person was legally a woman, although mentally she could've been a man.

If you could do that, then you could apply it to anything. For example, a car insurance company could sue the former woman because she was a man all along and therefore was wrongly receiving female rates when he was supposed to be receiving male rates.

Legally, it opens up a ridiculous amount of things if you can retro-actively apply the now male gender to all aspects of her the earlier part of her life as a male.
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I didn't claim that it wouldn't open a can of worms. As for your car insurance company comparison, they couldn't claim anything until the time she legally became a man. If he were still receiving a female rate, then that would be fraud..... From the time she legally became a man, then he'd be liable for fraud if claiming to still be a woman.....

 
Actually getting a sex-change operation is where I'll draw the line firmly for people who I will not accept in society, treat them as equals, or take them seriously.

I think alimony should end.. But then again, I think pretty much only women should be elligible to receive alimony. Ya.. I have a double standard.. So what. I think it makes sense to realize that men and women have DIFFERENCES - and they are not interchangeable.

 
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Actually getting a sex-change operation is where I'll draw the line firmly for people who I will not accept in society, treat them as equals, or take them seriously.

I think alimony should end.. But then again, I think pretty much only women should be elligible to receive alimony. Ya.. I have a double standard.. So what. I think it makes sense to realize that men and women have DIFFERENCES - and they are not interchangeable.
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so the difference between men and women is that women are incapable of earning money for themselves?

If you can take homosexuals seriously why can't you take transgendered (transsexual? i dont know the politically correct term)

In this case her sexualty or sexual identity has nothing to do with the fact that she/he was once married to that person and legally the ex has a duty to provide alimony to guarantee a similar lifestyle.
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Actually getting a sex-change operation is where I'll draw the line firmly for people who I will not accept in society, treat them as equals, or take them seriously.

I think alimony should end.. But then again, I think pretty much only women should be elligible to receive alimony. Ya.. I have a double standard.. So what. I think it makes sense to realize that men and women have DIFFERENCES - and they are not interchangeable.
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so the difference between men and women is that women are incapable of earning money for themselves?

If you can take homosexuals seriously why can't you take transgendered (transsexual? i dont know the politically correct term)

In this case her sexualty or sexual identity has nothing to do with the fact that she/he was once married to that person and legally the ex has a duty to provide alimony to guarantee a similar lifestyle.
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Homosexuals can do what they do; some guys like the idea of nailing other guys, and vice versa, so what? That's how they roll. People claiming that they've got the mind of a male and are trapped in a female body or some such bullsh!t, fall in the same category as the people who claim they have ADD because they're lazy and stupid. It's one thing to say "I like doing other dudes", it's a whole different thing to blabber on about being trapped in the wrong body. Sure, it is possible that some gene non disjunction or something during meiosis screwed something up, and there probably are a VERY SMALL amount of people who truly do have the mindset of the gender opposite their body. But for every one desiring a sex change operation claiming they were born "the wrong gender" is BS if you ask me.
 
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Ewwwww

I'm all for gay rights, but this is ridiculous. I mean she freaking had a sex change and became a man, she obviously had some serious issues during the marriage and the poor guy should not be forced to pay alimony to her. She wants to grow a pair of balls, why not act like a man, get a job and pay for your own cr$p???
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I think you're missing the point of alimony...
 
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Actually getting a sex-change operation is where I'll draw the line firmly for people who I will not accept in society, treat them as equals, or take them seriously.

I think alimony should end.. But then again, I think pretty much only women should be elligible to receive alimony. Ya.. I have a double standard.. So what. I think it makes sense to realize that men and women have DIFFERENCES - and they are not interchangeable.
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And I think you misunderstand the point of alimony too... If the husband gives up his career to raise the kids because the wife has a better job, why shouldn't he be entitled to what his wife would have been entitled to if it was the other way around?
 
If it suffered from sexual identity issues before it married the man it entered into the contract of marriage under false pretenses. It is likely since gender identity issues usually don't just pop up in middle age. It is responsible for the marriage breaking up and it sounds like the marriage was doomed to fail from the start and all because the "it" had undisclosed issues. It should not receive any alimony on that basis alone and I sure hope the man doesn't get stuck paying for the surgery it had.
 
Originally posted by: Ronstang
If it suffered from sexual identity issues before it married the man it entered into the contract of marriage under false pretenses. It is likely since gender identity issues usually don't just pop up in middle age. It is responsible for the marriage breaking up and it sounds like the marriage was doomed to fail from the start and all because the "it" had undisclosed issues. It should not receive any alimony on that basis alone and I sure hope the man doesn't get stuck paying for the surgery it had.
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10/10 :laugh:
 
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