Man charged with manslaughter for killing the twerp who stole his car

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

All men were created with the same right to live

does it actually say that or are you implying that?

KK

Do you know The Constitution? Answer that yourself.

I don't know it that well, so I went a lookin. Here's what I found in the short time I was looking.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This was in the declaration of independence. I found nothing in the constitution. Going by this, all men are created equal and after they are created that's where people go their different ways. One life is more important to me than a thief's life. That is not equal. So be it.

KK

Declaration of Independance? Eh... that's what I get for concentrating on three different things and trying to do my job at work at the same time.

So... where does it say in the DoI, or anywhere for that matter, that the lives of two men are worth more than one another's? And in what twisted world would you find people thinking that a car is worth more than a human life? Oh, that's right... the materialistic, selfish, pigheaded world that is democracy. :disgust: :frown:

There are people out there risking their lives for you RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE. There are people out there risking their lives for your petty opinion. There are people who have DIED for you to have your opinion. There are people who have DIED for someone's right to be innocent until proven guilty. There are hundreds of THOUSANDS of people who have DIED to be able to ensure that people like that little 15yr old would have the CHANCE to reform and become a better person.

And you're throwing it in their face, belitting their sacrifice, and showing that you really don't deserve to even live in this country.

Nice job.

I have served, have you? I believe you were ticked off about your job, why don't quit it and sign up to serve too? You may even change your thinking.

And in this case I don't think that kid would have been able to have been reformed.

KK

I have served for several years, not for the US, but that does that mean i cannot have an opinion?

You are still wrong, no matter how you look at it, now matter how you twist and turn it, you are wrong... try as you may, but you cannot twist it enough to make you right..

Your efforts only make me think less of you...

You already know what I think of your opinion. I'm the only one left fighting this fight, tonight. My being wrong is also your opinion. Which is wrong. No car is worth a human life. No one can see the future to know whether someone will reform or not. No one has the right to judge to say who will and who won't.

No matter how you think of your justification for murder, it's still just that. Justification for murder.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
This is incredibly shocking to me... how many people would simply throw away a life like this...

The kid threw his own life away.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
This is incredibly shocking to me... how many people would simply throw away a life like this...

The kid threw his own life away.

Which is his choice - a choice that he can easily turn around to regain it.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
This is incredibly shocking to me... how many people would simply throw away a life like this...

The kid threw his own life away.

Which is his choice - a choice that he can easily turn around to regain it.

And with his choice he took the risk of losing his life. If he wanted to throw his life away and live in a sewer, that's one thing. Stealing cars and harming other people is another. Start hurting me with your choices and it is no longer your own business.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

All men were created with the same right to live

does it actually say that or are you implying that?

KK

Do you know The Constitution? Answer that yourself.

I don't know it that well, so I went a lookin. Here's what I found in the short time I was looking.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This was in the declaration of independence. I found nothing in the constitution. Going by this, all men are created equal and after they are created that's where people go their different ways. One life is more important to me than a thief's life. That is not equal. So be it.

KK

Declaration of Independance? Eh... that's what I get for concentrating on three different things and trying to do my job at work at the same time.

So... where does it say in the DoI, or anywhere for that matter, that the lives of two men are worth more than one another's? And in what twisted world would you find people thinking that a car is worth more than a human life? Oh, that's right... the materialistic, selfish, pigheaded world that is democracy. :disgust: :frown:

There are people out there risking their lives for you RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE. There are people out there risking their lives for your petty opinion. There are people who have DIED for you to have your opinion. There are people who have DIED for someone's right to be innocent until proven guilty. There are hundreds of THOUSANDS of people who have DIED to be able to ensure that people like that little 15yr old would have the CHANCE to reform and become a better person.

And you're throwing it in their face, belitting their sacrifice, and showing that you really don't deserve to even live in this country.

Nice job.

I have served, have you? I believe you were ticked off about your job, why don't quit it and sign up to serve too? You may even change your thinking.

And in this case I don't think that kid would have been able to have been reformed.

KK

I have served for several years, not for the US, but that does that mean i cannot have an opinion?

You are still wrong, no matter how you look at it, now matter how you twist and turn it, you are wrong... try as you may, but you cannot twist it enough to make you right..

Your efforts only make me think less of you...

You already know what I think of your opinion. I'm the only one left fighting this fight, tonight. My being wrong is also your opinion. Which is wrong. No car is worth a human life. No one can see the future to know whether someone will reform or not. No one has the right to judge to say who will and who won't.

No matter how you think of your justification for murder, it's still just that. Justification for murder.

I don't get this reply... are you guys screwing with me or are you all drunk?

*me figures that FFM just responded to the wrong post*

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
This is incredibly shocking to me... how many people would simply throw away a life like this...

The kid threw his own life away.

Which is his choice - a choice that he can easily turn around to regain it.

Whats sad is he will never get the chance. He was wrong to steal. But that gives this Clint Eastwood wannabe no right to shoot the kid dead. I am just surprised so many people actually condone what this man did. Sad.

 

[KK]

ffm, do you believe in the death penalty?

Don't these death row people have the ability to reform?

A life for a life?

What about Treason?

Don't these people also have the ability to reform.

A life for a life, ah wait a sec now. It isn't a life for a life now. Should these folks die?

KK

 

[WyteWatt]

I don't think its right what the man did. You should never kill someone who stole something from you. You should call the police and get him arrested.

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
This is incredibly shocking to me... how many people would simply throw away a life like this...

The kid threw his own life away.

Which is his choice - a choice that he can easily turn around to regain it.

Whats sad is he will never get the chance. He was wrong to steal. But that gives this Clint Eastwood wannabe no right to shoot the kid dead. I am just surprised so many people actually condone what this man did. Sad.

im surprised there are so many car thief sympathizers.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: KK
ffm, do you believe in the death penalty?

Don't these death row people have the ability to reform?

A life for a life?

What about Treason?

Don't these people also have the ability to reform.

A life for a life, ah wait a sec now. It isn't a life for a life now. Should these folks die?

KK

Death penalty for a car theft? I doubt even you would agree on that... think before you post...

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

All men were created with the same right to live

does it actually say that or are you implying that?

KK

Do you know The Constitution? Answer that yourself.

I don't know it that well, so I went a lookin. Here's what I found in the short time I was looking.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This was in the declaration of independence. I found nothing in the constitution. Going by this, all men are created equal and after they are created that's where people go their different ways. One life is more important to me than a thief's life. That is not equal. So be it.

KK

Declaration of Independance? Eh... that's what I get for concentrating on three different things and trying to do my job at work at the same time.

So... where does it say in the DoI, or anywhere for that matter, that the lives of two men are worth more than one another's? And in what twisted world would you find people thinking that a car is worth more than a human life? Oh, that's right... the materialistic, selfish, pigheaded world that is democracy. :disgust: :frown:

There are people out there risking their lives for you RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE. There are people out there risking their lives for your petty opinion. There are people who have DIED for you to have your opinion. There are people who have DIED for someone's right to be innocent until proven guilty. There are hundreds of THOUSANDS of people who have DIED to be able to ensure that people like that little 15yr old would have the CHANCE to reform and become a better person.

And you're throwing it in their face, belitting their sacrifice, and showing that you really don't deserve to even live in this country.

Nice job.

I have served, have you? I believe you were ticked off about your job, why don't quit it and sign up to serve too? You may even change your thinking.

And in this case I don't think that kid would have been able to have been reformed.

KK

I have served for several years, not for the US, but that does that mean i cannot have an opinion?

You are still wrong, no matter how you look at it, now matter how you twist and turn it, you are wrong... try as you may, but you cannot twist it enough to make you right..

Your efforts only make me think less of you...

You already know what I think of your opinion. I'm the only one left fighting this fight, tonight. My being wrong is also your opinion. Which is wrong. No car is worth a human life. No one can see the future to know whether someone will reform or not. No one has the right to judge to say who will and who won't.

No matter how you think of your justification for murder, it's still just that. Justification for murder.

I don't get this reply... are you guys screwing with me or are you all drunk?

*me figures that FFM just responded to the wrong post*

No, he's drunk.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
This is incredibly shocking to me... how many people would simply throw away a life like this...

The kid threw his own life away.

Which is his choice - a choice that he can easily turn around to regain it.

Whats sad is he will never get the chance. He was wrong to steal. But that gives this Clint Eastwood wannabe no right to shoot the kid dead. I am just surprised so many people actually condone what this man did. Sad.

im surprised there are so many car thief sympathizers.

I'm surprised there are so many who want's death penalty for car theft, especially as other lives were involed...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

All men were created with the same right to live

does it actually say that or are you implying that?

KK

Do you know The Constitution? Answer that yourself.

I don't know it that well, so I went a lookin. Here's what I found in the short time I was looking.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This was in the declaration of independence. I found nothing in the constitution. Going by this, all men are created equal and after they are created that's where people go their different ways. One life is more important to me than a thief's life. That is not equal. So be it.

KK

Declaration of Independance? Eh... that's what I get for concentrating on three different things and trying to do my job at work at the same time.

So... where does it say in the DoI, or anywhere for that matter, that the lives of two men are worth more than one another's? And in what twisted world would you find people thinking that a car is worth more than a human life? Oh, that's right... the materialistic, selfish, pigheaded world that is democracy. :disgust: :frown:

There are people out there risking their lives for you RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE. There are people out there risking their lives for your petty opinion. There are people who have DIED for you to have your opinion. There are people who have DIED for someone's right to be innocent until proven guilty. There are hundreds of THOUSANDS of people who have DIED to be able to ensure that people like that little 15yr old would have the CHANCE to reform and become a better person.

And you're throwing it in their face, belitting their sacrifice, and showing that you really don't deserve to even live in this country.

Nice job.

I have served, have you? I believe you were ticked off about your job, why don't quit it and sign up to serve too? You may even change your thinking.

And in this case I don't think that kid would have been able to have been reformed.

KK

I have served for several years, not for the US, but that does that mean i cannot have an opinion?

You are still wrong, no matter how you look at it, now matter how you twist and turn it, you are wrong... try as you may, but you cannot twist it enough to make you right..

Your efforts only make me think less of you...

You already know what I think of your opinion. I'm the only one left fighting this fight, tonight. My being wrong is also your opinion. Which is wrong. No car is worth a human life. No one can see the future to know whether someone will reform or not. No one has the right to judge to say who will and who won't.

No matter how you think of your justification for murder, it's still just that. Justification for murder.

I don't get this reply... are you guys screwing with me or are you all drunk?

*me figures that FFM just responded to the wrong post*

No, he's drunk.

LOL, that was my second choice...

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: imtim83
I don't think its right what the man did. You should never kill someone who stole something from you. You should call the police and get him arrested.

Well, in the 10% chance that they catch him, he'll get off easily like he did the first time, and keep committing crimes because he has no reason not to. Now, if this kid had a buddy int he same business, and he saw what happened, then maybe he'd reform double-time.

 

Originally posted by: KK
ffm, do you believe in the death penalty?

Don't these death row people have the ability to reform?

A life for a life?

What about Treason?

Don't these people also have the ability to reform.

A life for a life, ah wait a sec now. It isn't a life for a life now. Should these folks die?

KK

There is a clear difference between murder and treason and Grand Theft auto.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: KK
ffm, do you believe in the death penalty?

Don't these death row people have the ability to reform?

A life for a life?

What about Treason?

Don't these people also have the ability to reform.

A life for a life, ah wait a sec now. It isn't a life for a life now. Should these folks die?

KK

Death penalty for a car theft? I doubt even you would agree on that... think before you post...

Read and Comprehend. I didn't say that this particular car theft or any car theft is a death penalty case. I was just trying to point out that nothing is black and white, there are shades of gray. If ffm believes in the death penalty, but only for killing or maiming, what about treason which is punishable be death. This is more related to material belongings or knowledge. Should this be punishable by death?

KK

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: KK
ffm, do you believe in the death penalty?

Don't these death row people have the ability to reform?

A life for a life?

What about Treason?

Don't these people also have the ability to reform.

A life for a life, ah wait a sec now. It isn't a life for a life now. Should these folks die?

KK

Death penalty for a car theft? I doubt even you would agree on that... think before you post...

Read and Comprehend. I didn't say that this particular car theft or any car theft is a death penalty case. I was just trying to point out that nothing is black and white, there are shades of gray. If ffm believes in the death penalty, but only for killing or maiming, what about treason which is punishable be death. This is more related to material belongings or knowledge. Should this be punishable by death?

KK

Then explain what ANY of this has to do with the crimes commited and reported in this tread?

Regarding treason, it depends on WHAT has been spread or reported... but do we really have to get into military laws in this discussion which concerns only civil laws and the shooting of a car thief? on the run? with people around? and someone starts shooting?

You get my point i'm sure...

 

[KK]

I get your point. lol. Anyways, I don't feel the shooting was completely justified. I don't think that this guy needs to be sentenced all that long either. Don't you think he has it rough already. I mean, his 85 pontiac is now all shot up. What a damn shame. Oh well, I gotta be heading to bed. Don't any of you fools steal my taurus tonight, or you know what'll happen.

KK

 

[Deleted member 4644]

This thread is approaching the limits of my sql serv... err my brains capacity to handle.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: KK
I get your point. lol. Anyways, I don't feel the shooting was completely justified. I don't think that this guy needs to be sentenced all that long either. Don't you think he has it rough already. I mean, his 85 pontiac is now all shot up. What a damn shame. Oh well, I gotta be heading to bed. Don't any of you fools steal my taurus tonight, or you know what'll happen.

KK

*steals his taurus* *YUCK* *still steals it* ;-)

Sleep well!

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: LordSegan
This thread is approaching the limits of my sql serv... err my brains capacity to handle.

You should have bought my SeganUpgrade 2.0 it doubles your capacity!

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: LordSegan
This thread is approaching the limits of my sql serv... err my brains capacity to handle.

AND you are drunk...

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
That's a crying shame. They should be honoring him at a dinner gala in his honor. He cleansed the gene pool.

Wait...what's that? I hear whining from the Happy/Christian/Pro-life/Anti-gun/Tree hugging crowd....

[whine]Oh, so, MichaelD; you're saying that this man's car was worth MORE than that young mans' life? [/whine]

Yes, exactly correct!! See? We all CAN get along.

WTF are you writhing about?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

I am all for the death penalty. I am not drunk.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
This is incredibly shocking to me... how many people would simply throw away a life like this...

The kid threw his own life away.

Which is his choice - a choice that he can easily turn around to regain it.

Whats sad is he will never get the chance. He was wrong to steal. But that gives this Clint Eastwood wannabe no right to shoot the kid dead. I am just surprised so many people actually condone what this man did. Sad.

For the first time in my entire time on AT, I agree with classy. I do not condone what this man did at all.