Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I literally can't believe some of the responses to this.
I personally don't like Hummers but because I'm not a fan of poorly engineered vehicles.
Moonie, taking a Hummer to task while owning a Cadillac is hypocritical, and not only that but if you own 2 cars, you've used up the resources for 2 vehicles, and by your logic, that's not justifiable either.
And that asthmatic child is far more likely to be affected by coal fired power plants or indoor pollution, poorly designed HVAC systems in schools, diesel trucks with higher particulate emissions etc.
<--grateful I live in Texas where we can shoot assholes like those vandals.
sigh
Cue smug alert sirens...
I haven't studied Texas criminal law, and can't quite tell how serious you are, but I don't know of any state where the use of deadly force is justified in defense of property where human life isn't in danger. If you walked out of your house and saw a guy in the street beating the crap out of your car, and you shot and killed him, you'd be going to jail in my town (and rightfully so.) Maybe Texas is different.
In TX deadly force can be used to protect personal property from theft during the night. Must be on your real property or real property you are authorized to be occupying (such as your place of business).
I'll find the links after lunch.
I'll read them when you post them, but I'm going to guess they aren't about protecting property. As you state you have to be on your real property, meaning home or place of business, and the reasoning is not to enable you to protect your property, but the conclusion that if someone enters your land with intent to commit a crime, they may be armed and the homeowner shouldn't have to wonder whether or not they are armed.
For the record, I'm all in favor of castle doctrine in the home. If someone enters your house to commit a crime they are putting their own life in jeopardy. Of course you could always invite the next door neighbor over for a midnite bbq, you know that one who annoys the crap out of you, and then just blow him away and claim honest mistake
Sec. 9.42. Deadly Force to Protect Property.
A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
So it could just be someone smashing your car, and you'd be within the bounds of the law to blow them away.