Man arrested at gunpoint after police mistake his MP3 player for a gun

NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: maxster
What a bullshit country.

OMG ... did you really generalize an entire COUNTRY based on an incident involving one dumb cop?

Hmmm, did you read the article? This wasn't "one dumb cop."

This involved a lady's suspicions, closed circuit cameras and multiple police officers and dogs.
 

chuckywang

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Jan 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: maxster
What a bullshit country.

OMG ... did you really generalize an entire COUNTRY based on an incident involving one dumb cop?

Hmmm, did you read the article? This wasn't "one dumb cop."

This involved a lady's suspicions, closed circuit cameras and multiple police officers and dogs.

My point still stands.
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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I think it looks more like a Type I hand phaser than a gun.
Nerd +1



Or maybe it's a new Glock with MP3 functionality. Put the ammo clip in one place, and a mini-SD card in elsewhere. Set it to MP3 mode (very important), and pull the trigger to play.
 

maxster

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: maxster
What a bullshit country.

OMG ... did you really generalize an entire COUNTRY based on an incident involving one dumb cop?

Hmmm, did you read the article? This wasn't "one dumb cop."

This involved a lady's suspicions, closed circuit cameras and multiple police officers and dogs.

My point still stands.

I was referring to the whole antigun issue and how bullshit that is.
 

rh71

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Aug 28, 2001
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The person to blame is the person who reported him to the police in the first place. Cops don't point guns at people on the street who take things out of their pockets. They had a suspicion of him only because of the tipster. Probably some old hag who's never seen a portable media player before.

"We received a report from a member of the public who had seen a male in the area who had appeared to pull a hand gun from a jacket pocket, grip it with both hands and aim it towards something. "

"An operation was put in place and a man matching the description was detained."
 

Venix

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Aug 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: rh71
The person to blame is the person who reported him to the police in the first place. Cops don't point guns at people on the street who take things out of their pockets. They had a suspicion of him only because of the tipster. Probably some old hag who's never seen a portable media player before.

"We received a report from a member of the public who had seen a male in the area who had appeared to pull a hand gun from a jacket pocket, grip it with both hands and aim it towards something. "

"An operation was put in place and a man matching the description was detained."

No, the cops are to blame. People file false and misleading police reports all the time, and it's up to the police to be intelligent enough to not fuck up someone's day over it.

Temporarily detaining the guy while they determine whether he committed a crime is fine, but arresting him and taking DNA, fingerprints and a mugshot is just disgusting. Matching a vague description given by a third party is barely reasonable suspicion, let alone the probable cause necessary for arrest*.

* At least in the US. I have no idea what standard of evidence UK police need to arrest people, but I hope it's similar.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Venix
Originally posted by: rh71
The person to blame is the person who reported him to the police in the first place. Cops don't point guns at people on the street who take things out of their pockets. They had a suspicion of him only because of the tipster. Probably some old hag who's never seen a portable media player before.

"We received a report from a member of the public who had seen a male in the area who had appeared to pull a hand gun from a jacket pocket, grip it with both hands and aim it towards something. "

"An operation was put in place and a man matching the description was detained."

No, the cops are to blame. People file false and misleading police reports all the time, and it's up to the police to be intelligent enough to not fuck up someone's day over it.

Temporarily detaining the guy while they determine whether he committed a crime is fine, but arresting him and taking DNA, fingerprints and a mugshot is just disgusting. Matching a vague description given by a third party is barely reasonable suspicion, let alone the probable cause necessary for arrest*.

* At least in the US. I have no idea what standard of evidence UK police need to arrest people, but I hope it's similar.

i disagree.

the cops did screw up. Once they had him on the ground and checked him out and found he had a MP3 player and no gun it should have been over.

BUT they took him in and did a DNA swab etc.


 

ForumMaster

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Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
better safe then sorry!

you truely belive that? they went way over the line. i think it's time V had a little "show" in the UK. the UK is starting to act like the england in V for Vendetta.
 
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On rare occasions people have seen my gun on me, or at least suspected the bulge they saw was a gun, and reported me. When the police bother to check it out it's usually a cautious approach, a request to keep my hands visible, a question of am I armed, and a follow-up about my permit status. Then they'll come over and verify my ID and permit, and everyone's off on their merry way. Takes maybe a grand total of 3 minutes. I've never been drawn down on, never asked to lay down, etc.

The cops handled it wrong.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
On rare occasions people have seen my gun on me, or at least suspected the bulge they saw was a gun, and reported me. When the police bother to check it out it's usually a cautious approach, a request to keep my hands visible, a question of am I armed, and a follow-up about my permit status. Then they'll come over and verify my ID and permit, and everyone's off on their merry way. Takes maybe a grand total of 3 minutes. I've never been drawn down on, never asked to lay down, etc.

The cops handled it wrong.

thats how i would think they would handle it.