Man arrested after he kills two burglars

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rh71

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What a bad@$$ mofo he is... but I don't get the part where they found him crouching in the stairway... what's up with that ?

Anyway, if you threaten people with a knife, you better be ready to use it... those assailants got taught a nice lesson.
 

FFactory0x

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thats awsome. Love his name "The DOctor" Any pics of this badA$$. Its like something from a Jet Li, or Jackie Chan Flick
 

rahvin

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In europe they will convict him for that. A lot of europeans don't feel you should defend yourself if it means someone else comes to harm.
 

PanzerIV

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Originally posted by: rahvin
In europe they will convict him for that. A lot of europeans don't feel you should defend yourself if it means someone else comes to harm.

Oh! That explains WWI, WWII and the recent conflict in Iraq! :D
 
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Originally posted by: rahvin
In europe they will convict him for that. A lot of europeans don't feel you should defend yourself if it means someone else comes to harm.

I know they would convict him in the UK, not sure about Italy.
 

Haircut

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Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve
Originally posted by: rahvin
In europe they will convict him for that. A lot of europeans don't feel you should defend yourself if it means someone else comes to harm.

I know they would convict him in the UK, not sure about Italy.
Not necessarily, if they found he acted in self-defence he would most probably get off. British law is similar to what is mentioned about Italian law in the link.
 

boggsie

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Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve
Originally posted by: rahvin
In europe they will convict him for that. A lot of europeans don't feel you should defend yourself if it means someone else comes to harm.

I know they would convict him in the UK, not sure about Italy.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I have heard LEO's state that once the assailants have been fought off and have left the building, the 'right' to use leathal force is no longer there. The rationale being, that they are leaving, let them go and file a report so the Law can pursue them. If you, a normal citizen pursue them and then kill them, you may be judged to have crossed the line. They ran, you stay in your house and be safe. You were no longer looking to be safe, you were looking to settle a score.
 
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Originally posted by: Haircut
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve
Originally posted by: rahvin
In europe they will convict him for that. A lot of europeans don't feel you should defend yourself if it means someone else comes to harm.

I know they would convict him in the UK, not sure about Italy.
Not necessarily, if they found he acted in self-defence he would most probably get off. British law is similar to what is mentioned about Italian law in the link.

I said what I said based on self-defense cases in the UK that I have read about. Too often, the victim winds up getting treated like a criminal. :(
 

waggy

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wow. to bad they arrested the wrong guy. try going after the one that got away. they have on the hosptital. it also saves the country money by not having to try these scum for attemted rape.

thieft is one thing. but to threaten rape? he let them off to easy.
 

JulesMaximus

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Italy has some very weird concepts of law. I remember after the death of Formula One racecar driver Ayrton Senna that Italian prosecutors charged certain members of the Williams team including the chief designer of the car (Adrian Newey) with Senna's death. He crashed during the 1994 Italian Grand Prix at Imola and died of massive head injuries-it was determined that the steering shaft failed at a very high speed turn.
 

Regs

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They allow self-defense in Italy, right? I have no idea how their law works. After hearing some of the stories at least.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Vic
How did I know it was going to be Europe before I even clicked the link?
Because you read the thread first?
No, because several European countries, UK in particular, are infamous for convicting people even when it was clearly self-defense.
 

kaizersose

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this is awesome. if this guy doesnt go free, italy needs to seriously reevaluate it's legal system.

something like this happened in the states last year. a carjacker tried to steal a minivan at a gas station. he told everyone to get out and had some sort of weapon. he didnt realize it was four judo instructors on the way to a demonstration. they ripped him a new one and were on every news report across the country. watching the police lead the guy to the cop car was sweet--he was in some intense pain.
 

gwlam12

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Originally posted by: kaizersose
this is awesome. if this guy doesnt go free, italy needs to seriously reevaluate it's legal system.

something like this happened in the states last year. a carjacker tried to steal a minivan at a gas station. he told everyone to get out and had some sort of weapon. he didnt realize it was four judo instructors on the way to a demonstration. they ripped him a new one and were on every news report across the country. watching the police lead the guy to the cop car was sweet--he was in some intense pain.

i remember that :) but my version is different. i remember an instructor with his female pupils coming back from a competition.
 

shimsham

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whos testimony would they convict him on? the criminals? if so, thats fvcked up. the one in the alley bleeding to death probably ran out there after he had his a$$ handed to him, i doubt the guy chased him in the alley and cut him up. even if he did, good.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: boggsie
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve
Originally posted by: rahvin
In europe they will convict him for that. A lot of europeans don't feel you should defend yourself if it means someone else comes to harm.

I know they would convict him in the UK, not sure about Italy.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I have heard LEO's state that once the assailants have been fought off and have left the building, the 'right' to use leathal force is no longer there. The rationale being, that they are leaving, let them go and file a report so the Law can pursue them. If you, a normal citizen pursue them and then kill them, you may be judged to have crossed the line. They ran, you stay in your house and be safe. You were no longer looking to be safe, you were looking to settle a score.

yea that's the rationale at least... it's retarded. you have no way of knowing whether they are running away or just going back out to call in more buddies or what. you should be able to do whatever the hell you want with people who try to harm you.