Man accused of sexual battery...on live TV

[ch33zw1z]

CNN: A runner who smacked a reporter's backside on air now faces charges.

A runner who smacked a reporter's backside on air now faces charges

The man accused of slapping a news reporter on the backside while she was reporting live in Savannah, Georgia, last week has been arrested and charged with sexual battery, according to the Chatham County Sheriff's Office.

www.cnn.com

What an idiot. His apology is weak, but at least he said he was sorry I guess. No use denying, since he committed the act on live television with who knows how many local and remote witnesses.

 

[TheVrolok]

Yikes. That was pretty dumb. Would be interested to know what the consequences of conviction would be. Is this a felony? Would he go on the registry?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I think this is a generational thing.
I didn’t read the text cnn is slow loading on my phone but I did watch the incidents video.

My summary:
Inappropriate- yes
Consequences for employment- yes
Silly/Childish- yes
Criminal- No
Sort of funny- it’s complicated


There is a long history of people messing with other people on camera. This didn’t happen in an office place.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I think this is a generational thing.
I didn’t read the text cnn is slow loading on my phone but I did watch the incidents video.

My summary:
Inappropriate- yes
Consequences for employment- yes
Silly/Childish- yes
Criminal- No
Sort of funny- it’s complicated


There is a long history of people messing with other people on camera. This didn’t happen in an office place.

She's a reporter. Everywhere is her office place. It was obviously deliberate. It's not funny in the least. Do you walk around slapping bodies of people that you don't know? If he's charged, too bad, so sad.

 

[Mai72]

I think this is a generational thing.
I didn’t read the text cnn is slow loading on my phone but I did watch the incidents video.

My summary:
Inappropriate- yes
Consequences for employment- yes
Silly/Childish- yes
Criminal- No
Sort of funny- it’s complicated


There is a long history of people messing with other people on camera. This didn’t happen in an office place.

Is it not criminal? That depends on your view. It is a generational thing but we aren't animals. We are conscious beings and we are always confronted with choices. He was confronted with a choice to either run past the reporter like EVERYONE ELSE, or he could do something stupid like slap her behind. He chose option 2 and it's going to cost him a lot. He's been charged with sexual battery. This one silly incident will probably affect the rest of his life. I feel bad for the reporter. This isn't 1950. You just can't do what you want and expect to get away with it anymore. And, that's a good thing IMO.

 

[Jaskalas]

Do you walk around slapping bodies of people that you don't know?

I do wonder, what is appropriate for a slap?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

1) She's a reporter. Everywhere is her office place. It was obviously deliberate.
2) It's not funny in the least.
3)Do you walk around slapping bodies of people that you don't know?
4) If he's charged, too bad, so sad.

1) Sure she’s a reporter and everywhere is an office place, however not everyone is an employee

2) it’s complicated

3) Really? What do you think?

4) Sure, I just think this is a really weird instance to even want that. What in your opinion is a fair punishment.
I’m thinking potential loss of employment, potential problems finding future employment, all the family drag that comes with employment problems. Potential problems with spouse, plus thousands in costs/fines is a pretty severe punishment
**also likely ending up as a registered sex offended**

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Is it not criminal? That depends on your view. It is a generational thing but we aren't animals. We are conscious beings and we are always confronted with choices. He was confronted with a choice to either run past the reporter like EVERYONE ELSE, or he could do something stupid like slap her behind. He chose option 2 and it's going to cost him a lot. He's been charged with sexual battery. This one silly incident will probably affect the rest of his life. I feel bad for the reporter. This isn't 1950. You just can't do what you want and expect to get away with it anymore. And, that's a good thing IMO.

Good summary, thank you.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'll submit that 30 days in jail sounds good to me.

Nothing beyond that.

 

[Mai72]

Good summary, thank you.

Thanks man. I just watched his apology and not once did he take ownership. Not once! He should had said that he f*cked up. He didn't which is going to make this incident so much worse for him, because the reporter is going to come at him with a vegenance. It looked like he was just trying to save his career, and to avoid embarrasing his wife and 2 daughters. He is a minister, and a Boy scout leader. My guess is after today he's not going to be holding those positions.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I'll submit that 30 days in jail sounds good to me.

Nothing beyond that.

meh, toss in a year probation with 100 hours community service and I'm in.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Thanks man. I just watched his apology and not once did he take ownership. Not once! He should had said that he f*cked up. He didn't which is going to make this incident so much worse for him, because the reporter is going to come at him with a vegenance. It looked like he was just trying to save his career, and to avoid embarrasing his wife and 2 daughters. He is a minister, and a Boy scout leader. My guess is after today he's not going to be holding those positions.

I guess that’s my point. Why would you want those punishments (as the victim) applied to someone who did that to you.
Also I’m suspicious if it will proceed, Unlike most AT posters I am not a law expert.
As I understand it public figures/celebrities are held to a higher threshold regarding stuff like this.
For example:
A woman runs up and kisses George Clooney on the cheek, she is not a sex offender
A dude hugs Katy Perry he is not a sex offender.
Those things come with celebrity. We can argue about what celebrity is and I think there is a good argument that someone who is regularly on TV is a celebrity.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I guess that’s my point. Why would you want those punishments (as the victim) applied to someone who did that to you.
Also I’m suspicious if it will proceed, Unlike most AT posters I am not a law expert.
As I understand it public figures/celebrities are held to a higher threshold regarding stuff like this.
For example:
A woman runs up and kisses George Clooney on the cheek, she is not a sex offender
A dude hugs Katy Perry he is not a sex offender.
Those things come with celebrity. We can argue about what celebrity is and I think there is a good argument that someone who is regularly on TV is a celebrity.

obviously those are quite different acts compared to a "slap and grab".

 

[fleshconsumed]

Tough one, on one hand I don't think it's appropriate to ruin a man's life over a butt slap, on the other hand putting myself in woman's shoes, I'd be pretty pissed if everybody felt entitled to slap my butt like it's no big deal and I'd want some consequences too.

I think the guy should suffer consequences, I'm just not sure what they should be. I think the most effective one would be if a bunch of random strangers would periodically grab his butt/junk over the next year when he least expects it so that he would understand why it's not appropriate to do what he did. However, let's be real, it would be impossible to pull off. I'd say fine him, and have him do hundred hours of community service, maybe jail for a couple of days/week.

 

[interchange]

This incident in isolation, to me, would not justify felony charges or becoming a registered sex offender. I think a misdemeanor charge with minimal jail time and/or civil action is warranted.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

obviously those are quite different acts compared to a "slap and grab".

Okay change hug or kiss to butt grab. Still think the result would be the same.

 

[Brainonska511]

Tough one, on one hand I don't think it's appropriate to ruin a man's life over a butt slap, on the other hand putting myself in woman's shoes, I'd be pretty pissed if everybody felt entitled to slap my butt like it's no big deal and I'd want some consequences too.

This country is so fucked when it comes to punishment - everything is always viewed in extremes. This man should face consequences for his voluntary decision to slap another person's butt without consent. It's probably not worth jail time, but some community service and probation seems to make sense. Maybe even a class "on keeping your hands to yourself."

Side note - I don't think you meant it in this way, but a lot of these instances always frame it as "don't want to ruin a man's life", as if it has more intrinsic value than the victim's. People that are victims of harrassement and assault have to carry around that trauma, which can affect them for life.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Okay change hug or kiss to butt grab. Still think the result would be the same.

I would like to point out that there is a big difference between hug/kiss on the cheek and butt slap when it comes to adult interaction. Lots of cultures hug and kiss on the cheek when meeting family and friends and it is perfectly normal and acceptable, a butt slap on the other hand is always sexual in nature.

This country is so fucked when it comes to punishment - everything is always viewed in extremes. This man should face consequences for his voluntary decision to slap another person's butt without consent. It's probably not worth jail time, but some community service and probation seems to make sense. Maybe even a class "on keeping your hands to yourself."

Side note - I don't think you meant it in this way, but a lot of these instances always frame it as "don't want to ruin a man's life", as if it has more intrinsic value than the victim's. People that are victims of harrassement and assault have to carry around that trauma, which can affect them for life.

No, I did not mean it that way, I said "man's life" because perpetrator was a man, if it was woman, I would have said "woman's life".

As I said earlier, it would serve us all well if we would put ourselves in other's shoes more often. I'm sure guy thought it was not a big deal because he never had to deal with that shit, if he had things would be different.

 

[Jaskalas]

Side note - I don't think you meant it in this way, but a lot of these instances always frame it as "don't want to ruin a man's life", as if it has more intrinsic value than the victim's. People that are victims of harrassement and assault have to carry around that trauma, which can affect them for life.

The victim will not be forever unemployed after this. Her life will go on. His will not, especially if registered.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Okay change hug or kiss to butt grab. Still think the result would be the same.

I dunno if clooney or perry would accommodate that type of physical contact from a random passerby.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The victim will not be forever unemployed after this. Her life will go on. His will not, especially if registered.

meh, I'm not sure if that's entirely accurate. Our society rewards sincere remorse.

 

[Brainonska511]

The victim will not be forever unemployed after this. Her life will go on. His will not, especially if registered.

Like I said, punishment in this country is totally screwed up because people have pushed for an insane system in the US where we punish everything severely (unlike in Western Europe) and mark people with scarlet letters for life. But our shitty choices for shaping our criminal justice system doesn't mean he should just get off scot-free. He should face legal repercussions for his actions. This deference towards a "boys will be boys" type culture or "effects on the man's future employment prospects" is myopic and helps perpetuate this behavior.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Slapping random women butts as a way of sexually assaulting them is one thing.

This was a case where he wasn't doing it for that purpose - and was obviously going for more of a "shock" value...


Regardless, dumb idea - Not quite sure what the price he should pay is.

 

[1prophet]

Make a public example of him like in the story of SunTzu and the concubines, men will fall into place and sexual harassment will diminish greatly, besides why should he be treated different from all the rest of the people that post a controversial photo or message on social media and end up losing their job or getting doxxed.

Besides, if you show any type of leniency or tolerance they go right back to being what they were before and deny any responsibility.

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[Lanyap]

I would think a hefty fine would do. Something to deter him or someone else from doing it.