Making own web site

sjgmoney

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I've built a few of my own little web sites before using an old version of Microsoft Front Page, but probably noithing for the last two years or so. Feel like doing it again, any recommendations on software programs to use? The thing I liked best about Frontpage wa the ability to just cut and past, no need to write code or anything so that should tell you what appeals to this novice.

Like to use frames or something this time, maybe jazz it up a little, but don't really know where to start. I downloaded the free trial version of Coffee Cup, but it seemed liek a pain in the arse to do anything decent because you have to pay to get the better stuff. I don't mind paying for it but I want to make sure I like it and understand how to use it etc.

Maybe i should just install my old copy of Frontpage on my new computer and use that again, but I know there have to be more advanced programs to use easily. Emphasis on easily here as this will be a MCI site, friends and family only.

Thanks in advance.
 

Beau

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Frames != "Jazzing it up" ;)

Check out dreamweaver if you want a new WYSIWYG editor. You can download a free 30-day trial from Macromedia.

Also, check out some open source content management systems, Xoops, PostNuke, and PHP-Nuke. They make having a dynamic website easy. :)
 

dderolph

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As you said, you might just use your old version of FrontPage. At least, it's something you're already familiar with. And, since you have FrontPage, you could purchase the upgrade version instread of a full version if you wanted to upgrade to a newer version. The upgrade would, of course, cost less than a new full version.
 

Modeps

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Originally posted by: dderolph
As you said, you might just use your old version of FrontPage. At least, it's something you're already familiar with. And, since you have FrontPage, you could purchase the upgrade version instread of a full version if you wanted to upgrade to a newer version. The upgrade would, of course, cost less than a new full version.

You sir, are no developer. Never suggest that someone actually use Frontpage.
 

dderolph

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Is he/she a "developer"? Not quite. He said "friends and family only." If he's comfortable with FrontPage, no reason not to use it for his purposes.

I've used FrontPage quite a lot. I'm aware of the criticisms "developers" throw at it, and I even agree with them, for the most part. Stilll, it can be a good tool for casual/hobby developers.
 

Modeps

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"If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right."

Frontpage generates some of the sloppiest code in existance. Please for the love of God, do not use it. Even if it's "only" for a family and friends website. Dreamweaver is one of the better WYSIWYG editors out there, and it's fairly easy to use. Frames have their uses, but dont just use them to use them. Frames in the 90s were like Flash is now (people use flash now because they think it's 'cool')
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Frontpage generates some of the sloppiest code in existance.


Sloppy code is just the start of it: Proprietary Microsoft HTML properties, outdated and invalid W3C adherance, and the requirements of the webserver having FrontPage extensions for it to operate "correctly" are a few more reasons not to use FP.
 

Modeps

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Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: Modeps
Frontpage generates some of the sloppiest code in existance.


Sloppy code is just the start of it: Proprietary Microsoft HTML properties, outdated and invalid W3C adherance, and the requirements of the webserver having FrontPage extensions for it to operate "correctly" are a few more reasons not to use FP.

:thumbsup: thanks for expounding Beau. It's nice when people understand ;)
 

Boztech

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Dreamweaver does have a 30-day trial but it has a bit of a learning curve to it that I don't think would be good for you.

FYI, Mozilla (the full suite) comes with a very good, simple WYSIWYG editor that makes very clean code. It's not quite as full-featured but in your case I think it might get the job done.

Most of the free editors that I've tried such as Coffee Cup, HTML Kit, etc. have been pretty lacking in my experience. I eventually learned to code simple HTML and CSS using a program called NoteTab Lite that is basically a tabbed version of Notepad with a small library of HTML quick tags that you can use. You might think about that.