Majority of Ohio voters would now rather have Bush back in office instead of Obama

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Nope.
 

ProfJohn

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For being a very good politician (he's proven that with his ascendancy to the presidency in such short time), he's got a tin ear on some issues and picked some very bad things to take (the wrong) stand on. Being on the wrong side of illegal immigration is a horrible political position at a time when so many are struggling to find work.
I am not even sure he is a good politician.

He is a good speech reader who had a brilliant political strategist running his campaign.

Look at what happens when you turn the Teleprompter off though. Look at his unguarded moments such as the 'clinging to guns' comment etc.

And just about ANY Democrat would have beat McCain in 2008 with the shape of the economy and the unpopularity of Bush and the Republicans.

In the long run we can blame it all on Hillary. If she hadn't been running for President and cleared out the Democrat side of any major contenders we might have gotten a much better Democrat President. But everyone was afraid of Hillary so they stayed out of the race, except Obama who was probably more focused on setting himself up for a future run at the office and most likely didn't expect himself to win.
 

Jhhnn

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Versus your typical Obama voter who voted for him just because of the color of his skin?

Doesn't matter though, this poll shows just how hated Obama is and it's only getting worse with each passing week and everytime he opens his mouth and pisses off the country even more.

If Obama was white, he'd have completely buried McCain and the Caribou Barbie, kinda like Johnson buried Goldwater in 1964. He'd likely enjoy more widespread support, as well.

One of those "Values" things...
 

zephyrprime

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That's not pathetic at all. Who cares if someone knows what FDR's programs were called? Who cares who Susan B Anthony was? etc. Sure, I think it's important to know history and have a basic understanding of how government works (or doesn't!) and all that, but it doesn't really have anything do with whether someone can pick a candidate or not, and it has nothing to do with a "social conscience" (not even sure what that means anyway).
There's a very simple reason why knowing stuff about history matters when it comes to picking politics. You cannot make good decisions without knowing what works and what does not. History is the best source of information for that.

Can you drive a car well with no memory of how to drive? Of course now. Unfortunately, humans do not live for hundreds of years and we can not all participate in political decision making so we cannot know much about what works or doesn't work firsthand (unlike with driving where we can have nearly complete firsthand knowledge).
 

pcgeek11

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If Obama was white, he'd have completely buried McCain and the Caribou Barbie, kinda like Johnson buried Goldwater in 1964. He'd likely enjoy more widespread support, as well.

One of those "Values" things...

I guess we will never know as there is no chance he will ever be:
White.
Smart.
Personable.
Re-elected.
 

woolfe9999

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It's not just "our voters", it's voters everywhere. Knowing stuff about civics doesn't mean you can't evaluate character, and that you don't have a basic political philosophical view. You don't need to know all the nuances and inns and outs of politics to understand promises made (kept or broken), and you don't need to know the candidate's entire platform if you know their stance on certain key issues. If you vote based on one or two key issues, then all the other stuff essentially becomes irrelevant to you.

Lets face it, the vast majority of people are not poly-sci nerds, nor should they need to be. They should be able to watch the news periodically, read a paper every now and again to keep up with things. Any more than that is generally the domain of poly-sci nerds, and the general public doesn't care.

It isn't that you must know who delivered the Ghettysburg address to evaluate a current candidate. It's that IF you don't know at least a reasonable amount about basic civics, I assume you are either a) stupid, or b) didn't care enough to learn. And accordingly, I highly doubt you have been either a) intelligent enough to understand, or b) cared enough to learn, about the policies these candidates run on.

So far as evaluating "character," that is something which voters will base on very superficial factors.

Insofar as this being true everywhere as you allege, I doubt it is equally true everywhere. I've been to Israel twice, for example, and the people there are very well informed about their history, as well as the candidates and the ins and outs of policy. While that pertains to only one alternative culture, it does tend to support the notion that collective ignorance is NOT inevitable.

At any rate, even assuming that what you are saying is correct on the whole, I would remind you that the topic at hand was Craig and his supposed "elitism." If the TRUTH is that the typical American voter is astoundingly uninformed and/or stupid, then it doesn't really matter if this is true in other cultures. Speaking the truth does not make you an "elitist," and even if it does, then "elitism" would seem to be the proper frame of mind. Broadening this beyond Craig, the real issue is that the right tends to accuse the left of elitism, claiming that they are out of touch with the common man. Not only is this allegation cheap populism meant to pander for votes, but they are attacking liberals for basically speaking the truth about the mental state of the greater part of the electorate.

- wolf
 

spidey07

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Lol someone who got into hardvard law on merit isn't smart now?

Holy shit.

Show the fucking transcript.

The fact remains is that peoples lives were much better under Bush than Obama and people reasonably would prefer those good times than the sheer misery of the obama economy.

Think about where each of you were at 4 years ago under Bush, then compare to now.
 

Red Dawn

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Show the fucking transcript.

The fact remains is that peoples lives were much better under Bush than Obama and people reasonably would prefer those good times than the sheer misery of the obama economy.

Think about where each of you were at 4 years ago under Bush, then compare to now.
So you believe that if Bush was still in office things would be better?o_O
 

spidey07

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So you believe that if Bush was still in office things would be better?o_O

Absolutely guarantee it. Look at how well he handled the small blip or two he came across. He certainly wouldn't be running around the country telling business how evil they are and how the federal government is going to get them (typical obama speech).

Oh, and that whole 9/11 and the economic affects afterward. Never Forget.
 

BoberFett

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So you believe that if Bush was still in office things would be better?o_O

Absolutely guarantee it. Look at how well he handled the small blip or two he came across. He certainly wouldn't be running around the country telling business how evil they are and how the federal government is going to get them (typical obama speech).

Oh, and that whole 9/11 and the economic affects afterward. Never Forget.

Sometimes I wonder if Spidey actually believes what he says, or if he's one of the greatest trolls this forum has ever seen? Most trolls eventually crack and let slip that they don't believe the things they're saying.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Think about where each of you were at 4 years ago under Bush, then compare to now.

I'm better off now, but not because of anything either Bush or Obama did. It was because of things I did. Bush was a trainwreck and Obama is a trainwreck.
 

spidey07

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Sometimes I wonder if Spidey actually believes what he says, or if he's one of the greatest trolls this forum has ever seen? Most trolls eventually crack and let slip that they don't believe the things they're saying.

/breakfast club

Did I stutter?
I said DID I STUTTER!
 

Red Dawn

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Absolutely guarantee it. Look at how well he handled the small blip or two he came across. He certainly wouldn't be running around the country telling business how evil they are and how the federal government is going to get them (typical obama speech).

Oh, and that whole 9/11 and the economic affects afterward. Never Forget.

Well you do live on the Southern Border of Ohio.


So according to you Cletus if Bush was still President we wouldn't have had the economic meltdown.
 

ayabe

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Show the fucking transcript.

The fact remains is that peoples lives were much better under Bush than Obama and people reasonably would prefer those good times than the sheer misery of the obama economy.

Think about where each of you were at 4 years ago under Bush, then compare to now.

Damn Obama needs a bubble so that he can just keep the ponzi scheme rolling long enough to ride out 6 more years, then when the economy explodes he can blame the next guy.
 

Pens1566

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Absolutely guarantee it. Look at how well he handled the small blip or two he came across. He certainly wouldn't be running around the country telling business how evil they are and how the federal government is going to get them (typical obama speech).

Oh, and that whole 9/11 and the economic affects afterward. Never Forget.

Delusion. Pure delusion. :rolleyes:
 

BigDH01

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Sometimes I wonder if Spidey actually believes what he says, or if he's one of the greatest trolls this forum has ever seen? Most trolls eventually crack and let slip that they don't believe the things they're saying.

Although I don't post much, I do have to say that I believe he's insane. I remember his posts being somewhat coherent during the last administration and then just becoming asinine after Obama's election.
 

Pens1566

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Although I don't post much, I do have to say that I believe he's insane. I remember his posts being somewhat coherent during the last administration and then just becoming asinine after Obama's election.

That heavy white robe and hood have taken their toll on poor old spidey ...
 

spidey07

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That heavy white robe and hood have taken their toll on poor old spidey ...

And the fact remains, 50-42% People in Ohio want Bush back. They are far from an outlier. I just don't think you libtards realize how much he is despised by most of this country.

Watch all of the political ads coming, most all of them are going to tie the dem to Obama and relate them, it's a winning strategy. Every time Obama stumps for a dem, the dem loses. He's the kiss of death for campaign. The dem in my senate race won't get near him and even told Obama to stay away.
 

feralkid

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Acanthus View Post
Lol someone who got into hardvard law on merit isn't smart now?

Holy shit.
Show the fucking transcript.


Congratulations, you've officially checked out of the real world, Spidey.
 

Pens1566

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And the fact remains, 50-42% People in Ohio want Bush back. They are far from an outlier. I just don't think you libtards realize how much he is despised by most of this country.

Watch all of the political ads coming, most all of them are going to tie the dem to Obama and relate them, it's a winning strategy. Every time Obama stumps for a dem, the dem loses. He's the kiss of death for campaign. The dem in my senate race won't get near him and even told Obama to stay away.

Incorrect. Guy running for senate in CO had Obama campaign for him and he won ...