Majority of Ohio voters would now rather have Bush back in office instead of Obama

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Affirmative on that it appears.
 

Acanthus

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Ohio is one of the hardest hit states in the union.

Anti-incumbency is normal when times are tough, regardless of fault.

Also, as an ohio resident, i can anecdotally say that most of the people in the general area (in the southeast) are very low education levels and very low political wherewithal to defend any position.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I think you'll see more of this. Bush was an idiot, but he was personable. Obama is aloof and detached. He doesn't connect with the majority of people. He doesn't talk to, he talks down to. Independent of his policies, that doesn't help him.
 

spidey07

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Ohio is one of the hardest hit states in the union.

Anti-incumbency is normal when times are tough, regardless of fault.

Also, as an ohio resident, i can anecdotally say that most of the people in the general area (in the southeast) are very low education levels and very low political wherewithal to defend any position.

LOL! The mind of a liberal - if you're conservative you must be stupid. Let me guess, they also cling to religion and guns?

Face it, Obama is a complete failure and most of the country agrees. They want the good times of Bush back. I was wondering how long it was going to take before this article got posted, it's been out since yesterday.
 

Acanthus

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LOL! The mind of a liberal - if you're conservative you must be stupid. Let me guess, they also cling to religion and guns?

Face it, Obama is a complete failure and most of the country agrees. They want the good times of Bush back. I was wondering how long it was going to take before this article got posted, it's been out since yesterday.

You have personally attacked me for being a liberal at least 3 times that i can recall. I am highly critical of Obama, but im also aware of the issues and actually study political issues in my free time. I try to look at all sides and find the most efficient and fair solutions to social and economic problems.

I am an independent voter. I am an Economics major that wants to go on for an MA in Econometrics. I am pro-gun.

The Bush times were not good times... The Obama times aren't good either, but steps are being taken to improve the situation...

There is a very large population in southern ohio that didnt even graduate high school. Our college graduate rates are 1/2 the national average. The average voter here doesnt know a fucking thing about the issues aside from what Fox CNN and MSNBC tell them.
 

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I think you'll see more of this. Bush was an idiot, but he was personable. Obama is aloof and detached. He doesn't connect with the majority of people. He doesn't talk to, he talks down to. Independent of his policies, that doesn't help him.

I can agree with this.
 

umbrella39

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LOL! The mind of a liberal - if you're conservative you must be stupid. Let me guess, they also cling to religion and guns?

Face it, Obama is a complete failure and most of the country agrees. They want the good times of Bush back. I was wondering how long it was going to take before this article got posted, it's been out since yesterday.

You've shown 49,002+ times now the person you quoted is correct. You must be an Ohioan at heart.
 

Phokus

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They want the good times of Bush back.

I can't keep up with your retarded sigworthy quotes, at least let the new one bake in the minds of ATPN/ATOT before i have to update it. There's a character limit you know.
 
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Perhaps the majority of Ohio voters are morons who fail to see that Bush's policies played a large role in destroying the U.S. economy and the well-being of Americans.
 

Craig234

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What an embarrassment for America to have such idiots for citizens. It reflects poorly on the people, on the schools, on the media, and on the political system's paid propaganda.

But hey, maybe they're right, and America is doing great, with the last 30 years' policies taking the nation to new heights, and it's the liberals' fault for problems.

The same liberals who have been out of actually setting policy since LBJ.
 

Jhhnn

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LOL! The mind of a liberal - if you're conservative you must be stupid. Let me guess, they also cling to religion and guns?

Face it, Obama is a complete failure and most of the country agrees. They want the good times of Bush back. I was wondering how long it was going to take before this article got posted, it's been out since yesterday.

Spidey is perhaps the ultimate denialist whose version of history is truly delusional.

The housing market, the basis of the so-called Bush recovery, stumbled in the fall of 2005 and landed on its face in 2006-2007, with mortgage companies and investment banks following closely behind in early 2008-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_United_States_housing_bubble

All this happened because the Bush Admin and a repub congress cheered on the looting spree for the previous 4 years, distracted the electorate with whatever was handy, like the terrarist threat, gay marriage, the evil Saddam, god, guns, gays and whatever else they could lay claim to...

Good Times, huh?

Spidey's a True Believer, however, who needs to live in a fantasy world to maintain some semblance of self respect and pseudo-sanity. If he stumbled on the truth as an epiphany, his whole belief structure would come apart like a shed at ground zero of a nuclear weapons test...
 

Double Trouble

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I thought Bush was terrible, and now Obama is terrible as well. What makes Obama worse is not Obama himself, it's that he's got Reid and Pelosi -- two fine examples of the scum that inhabit DC -- to work with. Obama has kept up a lot of the Bush policies I objected to (patriot act, gitmo, warrantless wiretapping, executive power expansion etc), and yet at the same time has managed to pass monstrous bills like the health care disaster. In a sense, he's the worst of both worlds.

I live in Columbus Ohio, and I can assure you that from my perspective, the average Joe in Ohio that was absolutely sick of the Bush / Cheney years that voted Obama because they wanted anything but the same is now ready to pick someone else. These are folks that campaigned for Obama and had Obama stickers on their cars.

If the repubs could put someone even remotely plausible on the ticket, Obama is in trouble in OH. Chances are that the repubs won't though, the likes of Palin etc are not going to cut it.
 

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I'm from Ohio too.

We do have some really mental light weights here. I have recently run into birthers, etc.. And we do have a lot of "cling to their religion and guns" people too.

S.E. Ohio also is home to the masses that could hardly wait for the earliest chance to get out of school and go to work in the coal mines. Also home to a lot of small farms where education is not highly rated. Been there many times, met many of the people.
 

Mursilis

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In Craig's world, the poor, unwashed masses are too stupid to know what's best for them.

I'd have a hard time disagreeing with that, in all honesty. Surveys, studies, and polls all show the average citizen is a complete moron. Look at the wreckage of the burst of the housing bubble, and how many idiots didn't figure out they couldn't afford a $500K house on $50K a year until the foreclosure notices started showing up in the mail. Heck, the majority still hasn't figured out that "free healthcare" is a complete oxymoron.
 

GodisanAtheist

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I think Obama might be running into the same problem Bush Sr. ran into: What a lot of people wouldn't look twice at during the good times turns into an epic shitstorm when the economy is in the toilet.

To quote Clinton's campaign: Its the economy, stupid!

People had jobs during the bush years, people don't have jobs during the Obama years. They want the Bush years back.

And honestly, its not that the average voter is stupid, they're more ignorant or ill-informed cause really after the hard day of work most of this country subjects itself to, people would rather kick up their feet and watch American Idol or Cops, not delve into the mind sapping banality that is American politics.
 
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Double Trouble

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I'm from Ohio too.

We do have some really mental light weights here. I have recently run into birthers, etc.. And we do have a lot of "cling to their religion and guns" people too.

S.E. Ohio also is home to the masses that could hardly wait for the earliest chance to get out of school and go to work in the coal mines. Also home to a lot of small farms where education is not highly rated. Been there many times, met many of the people.

Ohio isn't any worse in terms of mental lightweights than any other place. I've lived in a lot of places, both within the US and outside it, and it's pretty much the same everywhere. Also, the people I work with and meet on a daily basis are about as highly educated a group as you'll find, and they pretty much share the opinion reflected in the poll as well.

It's not that people are that stupid, it's that people just don't care about politics a whole lot and thus are not very well informed. "It's the economy stupid!" is absolutely right, things suck, and between the two incompetent parties nothing good is getting done. People take out their frustrations on the party currently in power.
 

Jhhnn

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People had jobs during the bush years, people don't have jobs during the Obama years. They want the Bush years back.

The economy of the Bush years was false prosperity built on enormous debt at every level- international, federal, state, muni, corporate and private, with the real estate/ MBS bubble leading the way.

As always, borrowed money creates certain illusions, and feels great when we're spending it on the equivalent of hookers, blow, scotch whiskey and fast horses... Now we get to try to maintain that debt, which isn't easy.

As a matter of fact, it's bad enough that we need to borrow even more to get back up out of the financial gutter, clean ourselves up and get back to work... Hell, some of us don't even remember how we got there, or at least they don't want to admit to it...
 

Acanthus

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Ohio isn't any worse in terms of mental lightweights than any other place. I've lived in a lot of places, both within the US and outside it, and it's pretty much the same everywhere. Also, the people I work with and meet on a daily basis are about as highly educated a group as you'll find, and they pretty much share the opinion reflected in the poll as well.

It's not that people are that stupid, it's that people just don't care about politics a whole lot and thus are not very well informed. "It's the economy stupid!" is absolutely right, things suck, and between the two incompetent parties nothing good is getting done. People take out their frustrations on the party currently in power.

I've lived in 11 states, Ohio is definitely the worst as far as the population goes for education. There is almost a sentiment of anti-intellectualism in the community.

Ironically, the area i live in is deep red (went mccain in my county in all surrounding counties) and they rely on massive welfare programs to keep the towns afloat at all.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I've lived in 11 states, Ohio is definitely the worst as far as the population goes for education. There is almost a sentiment of anti-intellectualism in the community.

Ironically, the area i live in is deep red (went mccain in my county in all surrounding counties) and they rely on massive welfare programs to keep the towns afloat at all.

You think Ohio is bad? I can tell you haven't lived in Arizona. Or, maybe your differentiating between those states that don't care and won't pay for it and those states that care and won't pay for it.