Major violent protest in UC Berkeley

[Victorian Gray]

No shit Sherlock, it's purpose was to show that the mainstream opinion of Berkeley is that it is now a bastion of free speech suppression. That even if it's a fascist/anarchist group that provides the violence it's only with the support and enabling of the liberals/progressives there.

It's always somewhat amusing to watch a fascist scream about "fascism". Not as funny as watching them scream about "free speech" though.

 

[peonyu]

It's always somewhat amusing to watch a fascist scream about "fascism". Not as funny as watching them scream about "free speech" though.

Where have similar incidents happened in the last year or two where Obama/Hillary supporters had their events shut down, and then the supporters themselves physically assaulted? I dont believe that ever happened even one time.

Also this is not new. A Trump rally in Chicago last year was shutdown violently by liberals, and yes people were assaulted and violently beaten there. In Las Vegas Nevada a few months later - hundreds of liberals blocked a highway so that people could not attend a Trump rally, they shutdown other Americans right to free movement and their right to free speech. The same thing happened at Anaheim California later, it happened multiple times at Universities, most recently at NYU and Berkely...If you factor in the fake hate crimes which are a epidemic now, those try and paint Trump supporters as being racists - and yet since there is little proof of that - libs resort to doing it themselves. The fake hate crimes only create hostility to Trump supporters.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/
The fake hate crimes include a black man burning his own Church down and writing grafitti on it and blaming Trump supporters...A Muslim woman saying a Trump supporters tore her hijab off but admitted it was a lie.

Also, "protesting" does not include sneaking into a poltical opponent's rally and then disrupting him everytime he speaks. Virtually nobody seems to understand how illegal that is, since a rented venue for a rally is considered private property for the duration of the rally...you would need Donald Trump's personal permission to enter his rented rally venue to protest inside of there. Yet the liberals have ALWAYS snuck into his rallies and disrupted his speech - which violated not only Donald Trump's first amendment right to free speech, but it also violated the free speech rights of every single person in that rally who wanted to hear him speak but were unable to due to constant disruptions.

So the liberals sneaking into Trump rallies, that to was a textbook case of Fascism - shutting down another person's right to free speech.


And of course there was UC BERKELEY....

 

[theeedude]

Look up Fascism in a dictionary. Textbook example is Trump. Liberals sneaking into Trump rallies is not even close.

 

[peonyu]

Look up Fascism in a dictionary. Textbook example is Trump. Liberals sneaking into Trump rallies is not even close.

Liberals like to project words onto other people, especially onto Conservatives. And calling Conservatives "fascist" is projecting, as so far the mob violence and the brownshirt violence and tactics are exclusively coming from the left. Infact, its so bad now that Conservatives cant even speak at Universities anymore - the brownshirt leftists showup and assault people if they even try. A hallmark of fascism is bullying and mob violence, its used as a tactic to politically silence opposing views and opposition, something which the liberal brownshirts are doing constantly now.

Donald Trump has so far done nothing illegal or outside of the bounds of our constitution. And if he he is reigned in. Calling him fascist is simply ridiculous as again, his supporters are not silencing free speech unlike liberals - who as we saw at NYU and UC Berkeley, act like the reincarnation of the BROWNSHIRTS. Also as President he has every right to protect the citizens of this nation, and that includes a wall if need be or restricting immigration, disagree with that or not it doesnt matter, neither of those are fascist.

 

[theeedude]

Dude, look up Fascism in the dictionary. Trump to a tee.

 

[peonyu]

Dude, look up Fascism in the dictionary. Trump to a tee.

You need to cite some examples and say more than that. Currently the left is acting like fascists and the media is covering for the left, by calling violent mobs a "protest", i can show pictures and video of all of this and the mass violence coming from the left. I can back up my points, how about you?

 

[cmann97]

They are are the tolerance party, or are they? Everything I see says no! Don't like it, shut it down....


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[werepossum]

fucking horseshit, man. That is absolutely nothing that I have advocated. Stop pretending that you know what my argument is, the kind of protest that I support.

This is pure fantasy on your part, what you think actual liberals are. I generally think of you as one of the smart people on here, but you really need to drag your ass out of eastern Tennessee and try to learn what actual liberals think, and how they engage in dissenting opinion.

I am not arguing "that's just how it is so trust me," but you refused to listen to all of the evidence placed here and on the news that this is an organized group that has NEVER been affiliated with these universities and these protests. You god damn know that when a mob shows up, as peaceful as they are, troublemakers will then show up and try to redefine the event on their own terms, and you lap it up because it is convenient for your self-confirmed assumption of what "the others think."

You absolutely refuse to accept the facts around you, because you want "the others" to be the enemies that you need them to be.

Tell me again that I support these kind of violent, organized, unaffiliated groups engaging with constitutionally supported peaceful protests.

Milo Dipshit is a vomitous, hateful, scum of a human. Berkeley invited him to talk, they didn't turn him away. Students came out to protest his appearance, but he was allowed to talk. This is how things work. Anarchists show up and then start destroying things, then Milo decides not to talk.

The left is blamed. Just how you want it. Stop being so fucking obtuse.

They are NOT anarchists. Show me once where a leftist speaker advocating, say, government health care for all or free college or a "living wage" has been turned away because violent anarchists attacked people and destroyed property. Show me where the blackshirts have shown up to prevent a Marxist from being allowed to speak and advance Marxism, or a Communist from being allowed to speak in favor of Communism - the ultimate authoritarian governments. Anarchy is absence of rules, absence of government. These blackshirts only want absence of non-leftist speech, not less or no government. The very idea of actual anarchists staging a violent riot to prevent a libertarian from speaking is absurd.

Hopefully Trump will begin sending in federal forces to protect non-leftists, as the federal government had to do for blacks. Once opposed by police not ordered to stand down and let them assault people and destroy property with impunity, we'll see the thugs identified once and for all.

 

[Maxima1]

Republicans hate free speech.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

She's angry at political criticism of her political positions and she may now leave the Republican Party? Umm yeah, how is that restricting her free speech rights? Did she get punched in the face? Nope. Did she get pepper sprayed? Nope. Did the police have to rush in and help her escape the mob? Nope. Was there a gang of masked and violent thugs causing huge amounts of damage with weapons threatening her well being? Nope. But Other than that though this is just like Berkeley? Yeah, good try.

My favorite Young Turks video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPIGzM6yMVs

Republicans hate free speech.

 

[Maxima1]

She's angry at political criticism of her political positions and she may now leave the Republican Party? Umm yeah, how is that restricting her free speech rights? Did she get punched in the face? Nope. Did she get pepper sprayed? Nope. Did the police have to rush in and help her escape the mob? Nope. Was there a gang of masked and violent thugs causing huge amounts of damage with weapons threatening her well being? Nope. But Other than that though this is just like Berkeley? Yeah, good try.

lol She tells the truth, gets bullied, and then they vote her out of her position for it.

Other than that though this is just like Berkeley? Yeah, good try.

There's a bully in the White House right now. lol

My favorite Young Turks video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPIGzM6yMVs

https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...cnn-it-will-take-a-miracle-for-us-t/21601770/

 

[agent00f]

This thread is basically dumbshits speaking freely about how dumbshits can't speak freely anymore.

It just ain't like the good ol days when their klan made the rules. But don't worry, Trump promises to make America great again.

 

[agent00f]

You need to cite some examples and say more than that. Currently the left is acting like fascists and the media is covering for the left, by calling violent mobs a "protest", i can show pictures and video of all of this and the mass violence coming from the left. I can back up my points, how about you?

Literally checks every box unequivocally: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...ti-trump-protest.2497634/page-2#post-38697266

Generally speaking, it never bodes well for dumbshits to use terms not meant for their heads.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

If they had held her down, sprayed mace in her face and punched her out, you'd be right. They didn't, she voted against the values of her group and she was voted out of the leadership. You claim is idiotic that it's the same thing as the violence in Berkeley.

lol She tells the truth, gets bullied, and then they vote her out of her position for it.



There's a bully in the White House right now. lol



https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...cnn-it-will-take-a-miracle-for-us-t/21601770/

 

[FerrelGeek]

And that's why we're blessed to live in a free country. God bless you and your opinion!

as a leftist I am anti gun but I do not condemn violence. I think violence is good and social services for illegals is good and cops are bad. The bible is bad too. Haircuts and deodorant are both bad. soy milk is good. I think liberals schools should get all the money and military should get none.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Did Donald Trump condemn his supporter murdering a bunch of Muslims in a mosque?

He called Trudeau to offer his condolences and his press secretary condemned the incident.

But how does any of that justify the antifa thugs? Besides, I'm only responsible for my views and actions. I universally condemn violent protests. Do you?

 

[Maxima1]

Trumpanzees, Trumpkins, and Deplorables hate free speech

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/elizabeth-warren-silenced/index.html

 

[Blackjack200]

He called Trudeau to offer his condolences and his press secretary condemned the incident.

So the answer is no then. He didn't. He didn't say anything about it on Twitter and he didn't personally disavow the attack by one of his supporters.

But how does any of that justify the antifa thugs? Besides, I'm only responsible for my views and actions. I universally condemn violent protests. Do you?

I condemn brandishing weapons or shooting protesters, as Milo's supporters have done. Worrying about a few punches (when we don't know what may have provoked them) or broken windows is just clutching pearls. You need to stiffen your upper lip and recognize that this is the result of a hateful messages. You have freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences.

 

[Blackjack200]

Trumpanzees, Trumpkins, and Deplorables hate free speech

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/elizabeth-warren-silenced/index.html

This was truly disgusting. My understanding is that the senate rule is designed to maintain decorum and prevent dialogue between two senators from deteriorating into personal attacks. Turtle used it to silence debate on a cabinet nomination. Looks like he's learning to abuse his office like the POTUS.

 

[PokerGuy]

Trumpanzees, Trumpkins, and Deplorables hate free speech

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/elizabeth-warren-silenced/index.html

Oh, the horror of it all! Following the actual rules of the senate! How dare they! Obviously every leftist idiot like Warren should be exempt from rules! Rules are only to be used to silence those who disagree with the left.

 

[master_shake_]

She's angry at political criticism of her political positions and she may now leave the Republican Party? Umm yeah, how is that restricting her free speech rights? Did she get punched in the face? Nope. Did she get pepper sprayed? Nope. Did the police have to rush in and help her escape the mob? Nope. Was there a gang of masked and violent thugs causing huge amounts of damage with weapons threatening her well being? Nope. But Other than that though this is just like Berkeley? Yeah, good try.

My favorite Young Turks video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPIGzM6yMVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUnAJ8R-R4I

this one is better imho.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Oh, the horror of it all! Following the actual rules of the senate! How dare they! Obviously every leftist idiot like Warren should be exempt from rules! Rules are only to be used to silence those who disagree with the left.

Rules of behavior don't apply to the self proclaimed social justice warriors on the left. Warren and Blackjack just consider themselves above that sort of thing because...........because they're .......well because Republicans are bad.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Translation - you support violent protests. Typical of many libs - nothing's ever your responsibility; everything is justifiable. Your antifa buddies did more than throw a few punches; some of them beat people with metal poles. In case you didn't know that can classified as assault with a deadly weapon. But hey, that's ok. Some of your buddies nearly beat an autistic guy to death. I guess people with disabilities don't fit into your list of groups that don't deserve special status like all the other politically approved victim groups you recognize. Non libs aren't human so it's all good to people like you. Maybe someone will punch you out at a protest and we'll get to see you squeal like a little bitch and play the victim. You're a sterling example of why I could never be a liberal. Just so you know, I'm only slightly to the right of center with libertarian leanings. I detest power-hungry statists of either side.

So the answer is no then. He didn't. He didn't say anything about it on Twitter and he didn't personally disavow the attack by one of his supporters.

I condemn brandishing weapons or shooting protesters, as Milo's supporters have done. Worrying about a few punches (when we don't know what may have provoked them) or broken windows is just clutching pearls. You need to stiffen your upper lip and recognize that this is the result of a hateful messages. You have freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Blackjack is a member of the lowest form of leftism. A violent thug that believes he is entitled to assault free speech and be free from self-defense. Total subhuman.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Blackjack is a member of the lowest form of leftism. A violent thug that believes he is entitled to assault free speech and be free from self-defense. Total subhuman.

Don't clutch too hard. You don't want to hurt your fingers.