major terrorist bombing in the turkish capital

Jaskalas

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It's difficult to imagine this not being the PKK (Kurds).
Turkey has recently taken military action against them inside Iraq.


Worst of all this was a peace protest that got hit.
This is a dark day for Turkey based on my anticipation of what is to follow.
 
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norseamd

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It's difficult to imagine this not being the PKK (Kurds).
Turkey has recently taken military action against them inside Iraq.

Worst of all this was a peace protest that got hit.
This is a dark day for Turkey based on my anticipation of what is to follow.

You know a comment like this might be considered malicious, but because it is you I am just going to be assuming ignorance.

Not the PKK at all.
 

fskimospy

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It's difficult to imagine this not being the PKK (Kurds).
Turkey has recently taken military action against them inside Iraq.

Worst of all this was a peace protest that got hit.
This is a dark day for Turkey based on my anticipation of what is to follow.

Are you saying the PKK bombed their fellow Kurds?

That seems unlikely.
 

MongGrel

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Not really much of a surprise.

Turkey rolled tanks up to the border and watched Daesh attacking them on just on the other side of a fence in the recent past probably just for a show and keep them from going into Turkey rather than support. They kinda sat there and ate popcorn.

Has never been love with Turkey and Kurds.

And yeah, I do not know why you would think their own people would do it, Jackalas
 
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Jaskalas

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I am not aware of any other terrorism inside Turkey.
It'd be nice if you shared this information you claim to have.
 

norseamd

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I am not aware of any other terrorism inside Turkey.
It'd be nice if you shared this information you claim to have.

The rally that was going on was a pro-HDP peace rally by Kurds and sympathetic Turks so the PKK would never bomb them.

Right now the suspects are ultra-nationalist Turks or even the AKP.

Hesitant to blame this on the AKP for right now.
 

Herr Kutz

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Good thing we have the nobel peace price winning president to swoop in to the rescue.


Thread crap having little to nothing to do with this topic.

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KMFJD

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Good thing we have the nobel peace price winning president to swoop in to the rescue.

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someone called?

Doubling down on an off topic troll post is over the line.

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Editing your post after it has been infracted is forbidden, for obvious reasons. :colbert:

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Perknose

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I am not aware of any other terrorism inside Turkey.
It'd be nice if you shared this information you claim to have.

Seriously? Ok:

The present:

The shootings of the police officers were retaliation for a July 20 suicide bombing in the border town of Suruc that killed at least 32 people. Many of the victims were youth activists who had been planning to travel to Syria to help rebuild the Kurdish town of Kobani, which has seen intense fighting between Islamic State and Kurdish fighters. While the Islamic State is believed to have been behind the Suruc bombing, the PKK has blamed Turkish officials for collusion in the attack. Turkey’s Kurds have long criticized the government for what they perceive as inaction against ISIS inside the country and along its border. What’s more, many Turkish Kurds accuse the government of supporting the Islamist militants against Kurdish fighters in Syria—an allegation the Turkish government denies.

The history:

The 1990s were particularly brutal years, as Noam Chomsky explained in a 2012 interview: “The Turkish state was carrying out a major terrorist war against the Kurdish population: tens of thousands of people killed, thousands of towns and villages destroyed, probably millions of refugees, torture, every kind of atrocity you can think of.”
 

norseamd

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The rally was organized by the Confederation of Public Sector Trades' Unions (KESK), Confederation of Progressive Trade Unions of Turkey (DİSK), Turkish Medical Association (TTB) and Union of Chambers of Turkish Engineers and Architects (TMMOB)
Members of the HDP were also in attendance, including HDP parliamentary candidate Kübra Meltem Malloaoglu.
 

Indus

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Good thing we have the nobel peace price winning president to swoop in to the rescue.

[sarcasm]Quick lets impeach the president so we can put our speaker in and bomb bomb bomb turkey to get our turkeys for thanksgiving. [/sarcasm]
 
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The rally that was going on was a pro-HDP peace rally by Kurds and sympathetic Turks so the PKK would never bomb them.

Right now the suspects are ultra-nationalist Turks or even the AKP.

Hesitant to blame this on the AKP for right now.

Smells like Erdogan to me.
 

compuwiz1

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Radical Islam up to their usual shit. Calling it what it is. Damn, I wish these people would upgrade to "current age". Civilization dropped out of this program centuries ago, but these throwbacks want to continue their hate and killing into eternity. :(
 

OCNewbie

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"The Turkish state was carrying out a major terrorist war against the Kurdish population"

What was the Turkish state's reason for that?

This seems like business as usual for that region of the world. Maybe it's not as usual in Turkey, but I think many people, myself included, have become desensitized, and unfortunately disinterested to some degree, in what seems like an almost daily occurrence (whether it be in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc).
 

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As usual this incident have elements that can not be explained as "black and white". There are unannounced pacts between rivals or enemies for short term goals.

The short term goal we are talking about is the re-elections in Nov 1st. The parlimantary elections in June this year turned out to be a loss for AKP and Erdogan, because the Kurdish HDP made it into the parliament by getting over the 10% national vote limit by the help of Turks in the west who have had enough of Erdogan's 12 year of reign and presidential ambitions. HDP's success also pissed of PKK, the terrorist organization, who is making a big buck in the heroin trade but uses Kurdish nationalistic struggle as a camouflage. Political representation of Kurds in the parliament makes them useless in the long term.

So after the June elections Erdogan and PkK were in positions to scratch each others backs. PKK started attacking military bases in the East while peaceful HDP meetings were bombed by unknown attackers who were never caught. Yesterday's was an extremely bad one. The idea is to alienate Turks from Kurds so that HDP wont get any Turkish votes and to piss off Kurds so that armed conflict would get more support