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Major Dot-Com Retailers Begin Levying Sales Tax

optoman

Diamond Member
It has finally happened. This will kill internet shopping once it takes hold.

Washington Post Article


Some of the nation's largest retailers this week started voluntarily collecting taxes on all of their online sales.

The companies are among the first in the nation to collect sales taxes from online shoppers across the country, not just shoppers who live in the states where the companies maintain actual stores or distribution centers.


 
Originally posted by: optoman
It has finally happened. This will kill internet shopping once it takes hold.

Washington Post Article


Some of the nation's largest retailers this week started voluntarily collecting taxes on all of their online sales.

The companies are among the first in the nation to collect sales taxes from online shoppers across the country, not just shoppers who live in the states where the companies maintain actual stores or distribution centers.

:Q Bullsh!t!
 
Just business as usual. Instead of government trying to get their spending under control, they just start finding new ways to tax us...
 
Originally posted by: bigsmooth
Thank God I live in Oregon. 😀

Yup.

All you who have been avoiding taxes by ordering online have technically been breaking the law (unless you calculated & paid the tax to the state).

It's part of living in a state that has a sales tax.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Just business as usual. Instead of government trying to get their spending under control, they just start finding new ways to tax us...

This is NOT a new way to tax you, this is the way it was always supposed to work.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: bigsmooth
Thank God I live in Oregon. 😀

Yup.

All you who have been avoiding taxes by ordering online have technically been breaking the law (unless you calculated & paid the tax to the state).

It's part of living in a state that has a sales tax.

Viper GTS
Microsoft nailed me for sales tax on an order I placed with them recently. I was convinced they'd made an error and even called customer service (who of course explained all this to me).

 
That's gonna be a headache for the online merchants. They'll have to keep track of all sales tax and cut a check to each state for it twice a year. That'll drive prices up too, because that will most certainly require more positions opened up in the company.
 
Originally posted by: optoman
How can a state collect from a company that doesn't have a physical presence in their state?

I guess its like when you goto another state, you buy stuff there, you get taxed. Can't show your out of state ID and expect to get not taxed.
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Queasy
Just business as usual. Instead of government trying to get their spending under control, they just start finding new ways to tax us...

This is NOT a new way to tax you, this is the way it was always supposed to work.

Viper GTS

I guess that's why there's been a moratorium on internet taxes imposed by the federales then. (Yes, I know it is expiring/has expired)
 
Originally posted by: optoman
How can a state collect from a company that doesn't have a physical presence in their state?
The state isn't collecting any money from a company, they are collecting money from the state's residents who purchase things at that company. If you live in a state that collects sales taxes then you owe sales tax on every purchase you make of covered items. It doesn't matter where you buy them, just the fact that you buy them means you owe the tax. For convienence states have the stores with a physical presence in that state do the paperwork, so the millions of state residents don't have to each keep thousands of recepits for the whole year until tax time comes around. Imagine the paperwork nightmare that would cause. Stores that don't have a physical presence in that state cannot be forced to do that paperwork for the customers, but the customers still owe the tax. Look at your link you posted:

"Some of the nation's largest retailers this week started voluntarily collecting taxes on all of their online sales."

See the word 'voluntarily'. The state isn't forcing them to do anything. But hopefully all stores will voluntarily do this so that we as consumers can stop saving receipts from all online orders. That will reduce a lot of paperwork for us.

You haven't illegally been ignoring those taxes have you?


 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: optoman
How can a state collect from a company that doesn't have a physical presence in their state?
The state isn't collecting any money from a company, they are collecting money from the state's residents who purchase things at that company. If you live in a state that collects sales taxes then you owe sales tax on every purchase you make of covered items. It doesn't matter where you buy them, just the fact that you buy them means you owe the tax. For convienence states have the stores with a physical presence in that state do the paperwork, so the millions of state residents don't have to each keep thousands of recepits for the whole year until tax time comes around. Imagine the paperwork nightmare that would cause. Stores that don't have a physical presence in that state cannot be forced to do that paperwork for the customers, but the customers still owe the tax. Look at your link you posted:

"Some of the nation's largest retailers this week started voluntarily collecting taxes on all of their online sales."

See the word 'voluntarily'. The state isn't forcing them to do anything. But hopefully all stores will voluntarily do this so that we as consumers can stop saving receipts from all online orders. That will reduce a lot of paperwork for us.

You haven't illegally been ignoring those taxes have you?

Yes! 😀
 
So you're supposed to pay the sales tax for the state which you're resident of?

Going on this "logic" I should be paying Michigan Sales Tax instead of California Sales Tax, when I'm visiting California.

Note: I don't know if CA has sales tax or not...I'm just using them as an example)

- TK
 
"If we disclose who these companies are, it's like putting a target on their back," he said.
I hate to say it, BUT the companies who are charging taxes will be known soon enough and us, the shoppers, will put targets on their backs. 😉
 
Originally posted by: optoman
It has finally happened. This will kill internet shopping once it takes hold.

Washington Post Article


Some of the nation's largest retailers this week started voluntarily collecting taxes on all of their online sales.

The companies are among the first in the nation to collect sales taxes from online shoppers across the country, not just shoppers who live in the states where the companies maintain actual stores or distribution centers.


Anybody know the names of these retailers ?


 
Originally posted by: TheEvil1
just as long as Newegg dosent start this ill be happy

No source contacted for this story would reveal the names of the participating retailers. In the past week, however, Wal-Mart, Marshall Fields, Target, Toys R Us and Mervyn's each posted new sales tax notices on their Web sites, saying that the companies will charge taxes for buyers living in the states where sales taxes are on the books.
 
Originally posted by: wje
"If we disclose who these companies are, it's like putting a target on their back," he said.
I hate to say it, BUT the companies who are charging taxes will be known soon enough and us, the shoppers, will put targets on their backs. 😉

That quote is out of context. It meant that the states that didn't agree to "drop" all the back owed taxes would know who to go after. Not that the customers would know who to avoid because of the taxes.
 
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