Magnetohydrodynamic generators

XMan

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Here's a summation of how such a device works . . .

"The generation of electricity by motion of a conducting fluid through a magnetic field, i.e., magnetohydrodynamics (MHD), provides a method of electric power generation without moving mechanical parts and when the conducting fluid is a plasma formed by combustion of a fuel such as natural gas, an idealized combination of apparatus is realized since the very clean-burning natural gas forms the conducting plasma in an efficient manner and the thus formed plasma, when passed through a magnetic field, generates electricity in a very efficient manner. Thus the use of a fuel source [42] to generate a plasma by combustion thereof for the generation of electricity essentially at the site of occurrence of the fuel source is unique and ideal when high power levels are required and desirable field lines intersect the earth's surface at or near the site of the fuel source. A particular advantage for MHD generators is that they can be made to generate large amounts of power with a small volume, light weight device. For example, a 1000 megawatt MHD generator can be construed using superconducting magnets to weigh roughly 42,000 pounds and can be readily air lifted."

Couldn't this be a closed cycle? Does plasma "wear out"?
 

Ages120

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Plasma wears out being that it decays into other forms of energy very fast. I wanna know how efficient a very efficient manner is.
 

AnthraX101

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You are robbing the plasma of its energy. It will rapidly decay into one of the other, more stable forms. Even feeding the energy back into the plasma, you will slowly suffer parasitic losses from the system, and again it will wear out.

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Falloutboy

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I think the idea is to use the natrual gas to produce the plasma, and i'm guessing thier compairing the efficiency to using natural gas to generate electricity a more traditional way
 

Titan

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Just out of curiosity, what exactly is plasma? I remember my HS chem teacher told us it is one of 4 states of matter, vapor, liguid, solid, plasma. I remember I asked him this question and I didn't get a good answer. What are it's properties that differ it from other states?

BTW, MHD is how they explain mechs are powered in the mechwarrior/battletech universe. Combined with hot fusion, masically a mech runs on a small star, heavily shilelded with magnetic fields.
 

Falloutboy

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Originally posted by: tkotitan2
Just out of curiosity, what exactly is plasma? I remember my HS chem teacher told us it is one of 4 states of matter, vapor, liguid, solid, plasma. I remember I asked him this question and I didn't get a good answer. What are it's properties that differ it from other states?

BTW, MHD is how they explain mechs are powered in the mechwarrior/battletech universe. Combined with hot fusion, masically a mech runs on a small star, heavily shilelded with magnetic fields.

plasma is the state in matter where it contains enough energy and is under enough pressure for atoms to fuse together due to the fact that thier is more engergy forcing them together than the forces that normally keep them apart. (I know this isn't exactly correct but its been over 3 years since i've had phsyics and forget the correct terms or most of this)
 

zephyrprime

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plasma is the state in matter where it contains enough energy and is under enough pressure for atoms to fuse together due to the fact that thier is more engergy forcing them together than the forces that normally keep them apart. (I know this isn't exactly correct but its been over 3 years since i've had phsyics and forget the correct terms or most of this)
Uh, that's totally wrong. Plasma is just matter that is in a charged state.