Madison County, AL jailers sued for allegedly allowing prisoners to die.

[Oldgamer]

Link to news source. To lengthy to cut and paste. Pretty disgusting.

 

[Bitek]

Wow... Completely unacceptable.

 

[Oldgamer]

They were in violation of both the 8th amendment and the 14th amendment.

How very cruel that this one kid stole a DVD and died such a horrible agonizing death like that. They denied him water while his foot was gangrenous and he was delirious from fever and dying.

The woman who died from the abdominal obstruction died a really painful death too.

Yet no one will go to jail for this. Even though this is negligent homicide.

Quote from Sardondi:

I spent more than 25 years in law enforcement. I like law enforcement officers. I'm biased toward them, because I understand the challenges officers, deputies and agents face daily, many of which are completely unknown to the public.

But if this report is even remotely true, and Madison County Jail personnel should have such a horrendous deficit of training and knowledge - not to mention a lack of even the slightest concern for a fellow human being - that a 19 year-old dies of a gangrenous foot wound which was so blatantly obvious that the stench of putrefaction drove guards to hose the wretched boy down mere days before he died and was released from his suffering, is evidence of such a barbaric lack of even minimal standards in the Madison County Jail that a takeover either by a federal judge or a judicially appointed receiver is immediately mandated.

Wow. I knew Madison County was wealthy. But I had no idea its county government had so much money that it can afford to satisfy the countless millions of dollars in judgments which will come from its policy of barbaric treatment of prisoners in its custody.

 

[OverVolt]

The hammer has got to come down on them so fucking hard. Is it a private prison? The things people will do for greed.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

That's where I live?
I've heard nothing about this...

 

[Oldgamer]

The hammer has got to come down on them so fucking hard. Is it a private prison? The things people will do for greed.

Yea good luck with that. haven't you hear? cops and jailers can do no wrong.. and well its only a "few bad apples". Besides these aren't even human beings, and they get what they deserve right? /s

 

[MovingTarget]

Yea good luck with that. haven't you hear? cops and jailers can do no wrong.. and well its only a "few bad apples". Besides these aren't even human beings, and they get what they deserve right? /s

Seriously. This is far too often the non-/s response of many of the law and order/tough on crime types. Even the worst of prisoners deserve the dignity that is an inherit quality of human beings, even if they have denied that to others themselves. The way we treat prisoners sometimes is a stain on us as a people that won't come out without systemic change.

 

[zanejohnson]

i've been saying this kind of crap does and has happened, for years..


the way this gets fixed is getting rid of the ridiculous "mandatory sentence system," most states have adopted, as it does NOTHING POSITIVE WHATSOEVER. it's only point, is to fill beds in the jail, the jails get their funding (private or public) by keeping those beds full, to run at maximum capacity at all times, they ensure this, by tacking a "mandatory minimum sentence," onto petty non violent crimes (theft under 50 dollars), driving while license invalid, public intoxication, these are all examples of crimes that should carry absolutely no jail time, absolutely no arrest at the time of incident, but as of now, you'll spend ~10 days in county (or 50 dollars a day equivelent towards fine), it keeps the jails full, it angers people (on both sides), combine that with extreme cost cutting measures, running the smallest amount of staff possible per shift (to maximize profit/funding)...and it's a recipe for this!


the jails are full of non violent offenders and drug users... it's ridiculous...

 

[SunnyD]

This is a contracted company that runs the facility. Here's the question: Why is Madison County being sued when it's the contractors that are clearly at fault here? They're the ones that run the show and call the shots.

For-profit penal facilities are the problem. The lawsuits against the county are just a money grab, not an attempt to fix the problem.

 

[Jaskalas]

These crimes demand justice, and a takeover of the system.

 

[DrPizza]

This is a contracted company that runs the facility. Here's the question: Why is Madison County being sued when it's the contractors that are clearly at fault here? They're the ones that run the show and call the shots.

For-profit penal facilities are the problem. The lawsuits against the county are just a money grab, not an attempt to fix the problem.

If they sue the for profit company, the company declares bankruptcy, it's owners form a new company, lather, rinse, repeat. Ultimately, the county is the one responsible for what happens to the prisoners.

 

[Brovane]

the way this gets fixed is getting rid of the ridiculous "mandatory sentence system," most states have adopted, as it does NOTHING POSITIVE WHATSOEVER. it's only point, is to fill beds in the jail, the jails get their funding (private or public) by keeping those beds full, to run at maximum capacity at all times, they ensure this, by tacking a "mandatory minimum sentence," onto petty non violent crimes (theft under 50 dollars), driving while license invalid, public intoxication, these are all examples of crimes that should carry absolutely no jail time, absolutely no arrest at the time of incident, but as of now, you'll spend ~10 days in county (or 50 dollars a day equivelent towards fine), it keeps the jails full, it angers people (on both sides), combine that with extreme cost cutting measures, running the smallest amount of staff possible per shift (to maximize profit/funding)...and it's a recipe for this!
the jails are full of non violent offenders and drug users... it's ridiculous...

In my opionion Federal Laws need to be amended to make sure that people can be held criminally responsible for this type of activity up to and including the owners/CEO's of the offending companies. Once a few CEO's get frogged marched in handcuffs for this type of activity we will start to see this type of activity get cleaned up. Enough with the financial penalties for this type of activity by the state because it just goes back and hurts the tax payers. These people need to held criminally responsible. If the local DA will not prosecute then it needs to go to the Federal level.

 

[SunnyD]

If they sue the for profit company, the company declares bankruptcy, it's owners form a new company, lather, rinse, repeat. Ultimately, the county is the one responsible for what happens to the prisoners.

Meanwhile the company gets a free pass until they get caught again, or at worst they get kicked out of the contract and a new company takes over and the whole situation starts over again in a couple years.

Like I said, the problem is the for-profit penal contractors, not the county.

 

[soundforbjt]

In my opionion Federal Laws need to be amended to make sure that people can be held criminally responsible for this type of activity up to and including the owners/CEO's of the offending companies. Once a few CEO's get frogged marched in handcuffs for this type of activity we will start to see this type of activity get cleaned up. Enough with the financial penalties for this type of activity by the state because it just goes back and hurts the tax payers. These people need to held criminally responsible. If the local DA will not prosecute then it needs to go to the Federal level.

Corps are only "People" when it comes to elections.