Made in the World and the WTO

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This is a horrible idea, just more anti-American sentiment and the idea of global government. The WTO is useless just like the UN
 

dmcowen674

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Made in the World

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ade-in-the-usa-with-made-in-the-world-labels/

WTO Wants to Replace “Made in the USA” with “Made in the World” Labels


The World Trade Organization is moving closer to eliminating country-of-origin labels and replacing them with “Made in the World” initiative labels because they say we need to “reduce public opposition to free trade” and “re-engineer global governance.”

An America that prides itself on independence and celebrates that independence every year on July 4 should want absolutely no part in allowing the advancement of global governance that aims to eliminate the one thing that allows American consumers to know from where the products they buy originate: The “Made in USA” label…

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Anyone else here think that this is just going to lead to global regulations and that it would suck?

Not Hell No but Fuck No
 

chucky2

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Why are they worried about the US? They need to go worry about China. Walk through any store in the US. Look where almost everything is made. Hint: It's not the US.

Chuck
 
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Why are they worried about the US? They need to go worry about China. Walk through any store in the US. Look where almost everything is made. Hint: It's not the US.

Chuck

Agreed. Why is it these organizations always go after the US but never after the other countries. They mostly go after the developed countries and ignore the developing ones
 

Cerb

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Must agree w/ the people I usually don't, on this.

We need more fair trade, less free trade, and stricter CoO labeling. Basically, the exact opposite of this.

I'll reconsider when we get a OWG...but even then only if that entails everyone being forced to play by the same rules.
 

rchiu

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Why are they worried about the US? They need to go worry about China. Walk through any store in the US. Look where almost everything is made. Hint: It's not the US.

Chuck

Because the article is horse shit, written to rally anti-trade people in the US.

The real MITW concept at WTO is described here:

http://www.wto.org/english/res_e/statis_e/miwi_e/miwi_e.htm

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MIWI is only a statistical concept and would not replace the origin label which as you rightly point out is critical for trade policy purposes. However, for business and trade policy makers it is important to understand the global production model, and where and how value added is created. Both, the World Input Output Database (WIOD) as well as the joint OECD-WTO project (both described on this site) are aiming at providing information that allows analysing global value chains at aggregate level only
 

Dulanic

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The WTO's opinions on trade/economies is about as useful as the UN's opinions on peace.
 

cybrsage

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Because the article is horse shit, written to rally anti-trade people in the US.

The real MITW concept at WTO is described here:

http://www.wto.org/english/res_e/statis_e/miwi_e/miwi_e.htm

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MIWI is only a statistical concept and would not replace the origin label which as you rightly point out is critical for trade policy purposes. However, for business and trade policy makers it is important to understand the global production model, and where and how value added is created. Both, the World Input Output Database (WIOD) as well as the joint OECD-WTO project (both described on this site) are aiming at providing information that allows analysing global value chains at aggregate level only


That was posted by a forum guest, not an actual spokesperson or representative of the WTO.
 

cybrsage

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Shouldn't they be more forward thinking than this, and say "Made in the Universe" instead?
 

SilthDraeth

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Shouldn't they be more forward thinking than this, and say "Made in the Universe" instead?

How about "Made by God" Since God made everything prior, so just assign everything made by people he made to him!

:D


On a serious note, just given the context of what the OP posted, I don't like the idea.
 

bononos

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This is a horrible idea, just more anti-American sentiment and the idea of global government. The WTO is useless just like the UN
It sounds like you have no idea that the WTO is a creation of primarily wealthy western countries especially the US to push the agenda of free trade and globalization. Big corps do not want consumers to know the what/where/how regarding their products eg. GMO, child labour, China-made (or made in US) etc.
Edit- And it also applies to your knee jerk statement about the UN.
 

Cerb

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MIWI is only a statistical concept and would not replace the origin label which as you rightly point out is critical for trade policy purposes. However, for business and trade policy makers it is important to understand the global production model, and where and how value added is created. Both, the World Input Output Database (WIOD) as well as the joint OECD-WTO project (both described on this site) are aiming at providing information that allows analysing global value chains at aggregate level only
IoW: how do we better shave those last few pennies off: get part X from Cambodia, or get part X from Malaysia? To know this, we must have a better understanding of the cost of the whole supply chain. It's hard to look at this positively, when comparative advantage, especially as it relates to developing countries (which this whole thing makes a major point) involves poisoning and overworking masses of people.
 

rchiu

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That was posted by a forum guest, not an actual spokesperson or representative of the WTO.

Fine, in the intro paragraph:

Today, companies divide their operations across the world, from the design of the product and manufacturing of components to assembly and marketing, creating international production chains. More and more products are “Made in the World” rather than “Made in the UK” or “Made in France”. The statistical bias created by attributing the full commercial value to the last country of origin can pervert the political debate on the origin of the imbalances and lead to misguided, and hence counter-productive, decisions. The challenge is to find the right statistical bridges between the different statistical frameworks and national accounting systems to ensure that international interactions resulting from globalization are properly reflected and to facilitate cross border dialogue between national decision makers.

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And I challenge you to find in their flyer: http://www.wto.org/english/res_e/statis_e/miwi_e/flyer_miwi_e.pdf

Find one word on making changes to product labels.....

Anyone?
 

bononos

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rchiu

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It doesn't change the fact that the WTO is a corporate backed entity that seeks to push their agenda of globalization. The WTO have been involved in numerous messy battles over GMO labelling, dolphin safe tuna, lowering of made-in-x labelling standards.

Really? And where did you get your info? The same website with anti-trade agenda and posting horse shite that suits their agenda?

Look around you, 80+% of stuff around you are from somewhere else in the world, including the computer you are typing on. Do you worry about dolphins when you shop around in Best Buy and buy the best priced computer you can find?
 
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Im pretty sure you wont find anyone in the US on either side of the isle agreeing with this. Its just a bad idea all around.
 

cybrsage

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How about "Made by God" Since God made everything prior, so just assign everything made by people he made to him!

:D


On a serious note, just given the context of what the OP posted, I don't like the idea.


I like it, and the lawsuits brought forth by atheists would be entertaining to watch. :)
 

bononos

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Really? And where did you get your info? The same website with anti-trade agenda and posting horse shite that suits their agenda?

Look around you, 80+% of stuff around you are from somewhere else in the world, including the computer you are typing on. Do you worry about dolphins when you shop around in Best Buy and buy the best priced computer you can find?
You've either got your head stuck in the sand for the past 30yrs or you only get your news from the WTO and the Fox channel and have made up your mind. Find something I've specifically said that you don't agree with and discuss that instead.

Yeah who cares about dolphins in nets, lax labour laws, low environmental regulations, weakened democratic institutions and national standards or the melamine that your dog eats.
 

sm625

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Made in the world? What kind of meaningless nonsense is that? Where else would something be made, on the moon?