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Discussion macOS Catalina. Security nightmare.

sportage

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Apple released a new macOS called CATALINA, i.e. macOS 10.15.
First off, nothing 32bit will run in Catalina, so you're going to lose some of your favorite programs.
And good luck finding and purchasing new 64bit versions, if you can even find them, or if they even exist from the developer(s).
And finding acceptable program substitutes is going to cost. Like lots of money.
A lot of photo editing software will no longer work in Catalina. You need to hunt for something that will work AND... is 64bit.

Then you have the programs you already have in 64bit that Catalina won't like.
Security errors up the yin yang.
Catalina doesn't trust this, or refuses to open that, even though all were good legitimate macOS programs that you purchased.
Believe me.... Catalina is one picky Bee-ach.
Then, simple things like buying and punching stuff online Catalina will not like either.
When it comes time for the good old CHECK-OUT page, its gone. Bye Bye. Blank screen. White-out.
Catalina doesn't like CHECK-OUT.
I found a go around by starting a new "private" window in Safari, and navigating the store's website from there with opening a new private page.
Select your items, go to checkout, and the checkout page "should" display using that private window. Hopefully.....
Just another little Catalina fluke to piss you off during your online shopping experience.

And then you have the Catalina PERMISSIONS. Endless permissions.
Holy hell.... permissions here, permissions there, permissions permissions everywhere.
Catalina wants your APPs to get permission before accessing THIS or accessing THAT, and before accessing FOLDERS and accessing FILES, and accessing contacts, and accessing YOUR BRAIN. :eek:
Access, access, access. Holy hell Cindy Brady.

I haven't yet come across Catalina actually threatening me with, YOU CAN'T USE YOUR COMPUTER TODAY BECAUSE... I DON'T LIKE YOU.
But..... I'm sure its out there somewhere, just waiting to screw up an otherwise happy computing day.
If I didn't know better, I'd swear Microsoft either bought out Apple, or Microsoft designed Catalina. In any case, I smell Bill Gates.
Only MS Windows could screw up an operating system, that was until Catalina came along.
YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!!!!
 

ultimatebob

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Wait a minute, you installed a .0 release version of an Mac OS X update, and you expect it to WORK RIGHT? Ha!

Ever since OS X came out, the common wisdom was to wait for the .2 release version of the new OS version unless you felt like being a paid beta tester for Apple.
 

SamQuint

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Highly recommend everyone taking a 32bit app inventory before upgrading. I think you can get this in your system information. I had an app that was 32bit and went to uninstall it and could not run the uninstaller that came with the program because it too was 32bit. Damn you Apple! You would think they could put this in the installer. It could give you a quick list of programs not compatible and allow you to abort before you go ahead with the install.
 

ultimatebob

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Yeah, it looks like Steam, most of my game collection, and my Harmony remote software are all 32 bit applications. And it looks like newer versions for a lot of this software isn't available yet. Well... shit.
 
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sportage

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Went back to High Sierra 10.13.6.
Truth is, 64-bit replacements for 32-bit apps will be a VERY LONG WAIT, that is if they ever do come.
Finding 64-bit replacements for apps you love and have been using for years will not be easy. I suppose 64-bit allows better security and better functionality, but still.
If you can't find an app to do what you need it to do, or the author has stopped supporting or is no longer in business, well hell. Those 64-bit app updates and upgrades just won't be there.
 

daveybrat

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Yup, i just had a customer come into my shop today and he had upgraded to Catalina.......huge mistake!

He lost about 90% of his programs. All of his Adobe Master Suite CS3 and CS6 were gone, many other programs, and his Office 2011. All of those programs were 32-Bit and no longer compatible.

The customer was so upset but there was nothing i could do, Apple now deems 32-Bit software as 'obsolete'. :rolleyes:
 

ultimatebob

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32 bit software is obsolete, but Apple should probably take a page from Microsoft's playbook and offer more backward compatibility. Hell... even old DOS applications can work on Windows 10 in compatibility mode.
 
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