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Feldenak

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Apparently Mack Brown thinks his Longhorns got shortchanged because of the clock.

Mack's crying

I guess someone should mention to him that the Longhorns won the time of posession battle.
 

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The game was over when OSU scored 14 points. Texas got lucky with a bad "Roughing the Passer" penalty on their only TD drive of the game. The rest of the game, OSU was pretty much handling UT's offense.
 

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In his defense, many coaches hate the new clock rules. I'm not saying it would have made a difference in the outcome of this game, but many do hate the new rules.
 

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Originally posted by: Queasy
The game was over then OSU scored 14 points. Texas got lucky with a bad "Roughing the Passer" penalty on their only TD drive of the game. The rest of the game, OSU was pretty much handling UT's offense.

Yeah, OSU gave up alot of yards in giving up only 7 points. Reminds me of those sterotypical "bend don't break" defenses.
 

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Apparently Mack Brown thinks his Longhorns got shortchanged because of the clock.

Mack's crying

I guess someone should mention to him that the Longhorns won the time of posession battle.

Well I didn't hear about those rules, and now that I have, I agree with him.
 

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
In his defense, many coaches hate the new clock rules. I'm not saying it would have made a difference in the outcome of this game, but many do hate the new rules.

What kills me though is that games STILL last almost as long as they did last year because of all the damn TV timeouts and breaks. Less plays are run now though.
 

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Thraxen
In his defense, many coaches hate the new clock rules. I'm not saying it would have made a difference in the outcome of this game, but many do hate the new rules.

What kills me though is that games STILL last almost as long as they did last year because of all the damn TV timeouts and breaks. Less plays are run now though.

Exactly.

I don't know how many of you attend these games in person... but you spend much more time waiting for the TV commercials than for anything else on the field.

If they want the games to be quicker... cut out the commercials.

I'll try to remember a stopwatch for the next game I go to... just to see how long we sit there waiting for the TV official to get off the field.
 

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The clock didn't cause the INT, the fumble on the 1 yard line, or a stupid use of his challenge halfway through the first quarter.

Suck it up Mack. You lost.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Blazin Trav
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Apparently Mack Brown thinks his Longhorns got shortchanged because of the clock.

Mack's crying

I guess someone should mention to him that the Longhorns won the time of posession battle.

Well I didn't hear about those rules, and now that I have, I agree with him.

Have you followed college football at all this year? It's been relatively big news.
 

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Originally posted by: theknight571
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Thraxen
In his defense, many coaches hate the new clock rules. I'm not saying it would have made a difference in the outcome of this game, but many do hate the new rules.

What kills me though is that games STILL last almost as long as they did last year because of all the damn TV timeouts and breaks. Less plays are run now though.

Exactly.

I don't know how many of you attend these games in person... but you spend much more time waiting for the TV commercials than for anything else on the field.

If they want the games to be quicker... cut out the commercials.

I'll try to remember a stopwatch for the next game I go to... just to see how long we sit there waiting for the TV official to get off the field.


agreed. everytime i flipped to ABC for the OSU/UT game there was a commercial on (was watching ESPN2). They've bastardized NCAAF because they keep increasing the time of commericals. With these new rules in place, Texas would've lost to USC because they wouldn't have had time to come back and you take one of the best championship games ever and turn it into another mundane "close" game.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: kmr1212
Originally posted by: theknight571
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Thraxen
In his defense, many coaches hate the new clock rules. I'm not saying it would have made a difference in the outcome of this game, but many do hate the new rules.

What kills me though is that games STILL last almost as long as they did last year because of all the damn TV timeouts and breaks. Less plays are run now though.

Exactly.

I don't know how many of you attend these games in person... but you spend much more time waiting for the TV commercials than for anything else on the field.

If they want the games to be quicker... cut out the commercials.

I'll try to remember a stopwatch for the next game I go to... just to see how long we sit there waiting for the TV official to get off the field.


agreed. everytime i flipped to ABC for the OSU/UT game there was a commercial on (was watching ESPN2). They've bastardized NCAAF because they keep increasing the time of commericals. With these new rules in place, Texas would've lost to USC because they wouldn't have had time to come back and you take one of the best championship games ever and turn it into another mundane "close" game.

The rationale behind the new clock rules is to cut down on the # of plays during a game, not necessarily the total time of the game. With the addition of the 12th game for all teams this year, I understand the change.
 

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Under the rule changes, the clock starts on a kickoff when the ball is kicked, not when the receiving team touches it; and on a first down, when the ball is marked ready for play, not when it is snapped.

Those are silly, especially the latter
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Under the rule changes, the clock starts on a kickoff when the ball is kicked, not when the receiving team touches it; and on a first down, when the ball is marked ready for play, not when it is snapped.

Those are silly, especially the latter

The only part I don't really care for is the kickoff part. IMO, the clock should start when the receiving team touches it.
 

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"They scored with six minutes left and the game was over before we had a chance to do anything," Brown said. "I really hope whoever made these changes will go back and look them over."
LOL, Texas was already down two scores.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Under the rule changes, the clock starts on a kickoff when the ball is kicked, not when the receiving team touches it; and on a first down, when the ball is marked ready for play, not when it is snapped.

Those are silly, especially the latter

The only part I don't really care for is the kickoff part. IMO, the clock should start when the receiving team touches it.

...or when it first touches the ground
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Under the rule changes, the clock starts on a kickoff when the ball is kicked, not when the receiving team touches it; and on a first down, when the ball is marked ready for play, not when it is snapped.

Those are silly, especially the latter

The only part I don't really care for is the kickoff part. IMO, the clock should start when the receiving team touches it.

...or when it first touches the ground

Either one would be good enough for me. I like the first down change though.
 

Blazin Trav

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Blazin Trav
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Apparently Mack Brown thinks his Longhorns got shortchanged because of the clock.

Mack's crying

I guess someone should mention to him that the Longhorns won the time of posession battle.

Well I didn't hear about those rules, and now that I have, I agree with him.

Have you followed college football at all this year? It's been relatively big news.

Off and on, not too seriously that's probably why I didn't know.

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Under the rule changes, the clock starts on a kickoff when the ball is kicked, not when the receiving team touches it; and on a first down, when the ball is marked ready for play, not when it is snapped.

Those are silly, especially the latter

That's exactly what I'm saying.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Under the rule changes, the clock starts on a kickoff when the ball is kicked, not when the receiving team touches it; and on a first down, when the ball is marked ready for play, not when it is snapped.

Those are silly, especially the latter

The only part I don't really care for is the kickoff part. IMO, the clock should start when the receiving team touches it.

That would make a difference of what, like 30 seconds over the course of the game?
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Under the rule changes, the clock starts on a kickoff when the ball is kicked, not when the receiving team touches it; and on a first down, when the ball is marked ready for play, not when it is snapped.

Those are silly, especially the latter

The only part I don't really care for is the kickoff part. IMO, the clock should start when the receiving team touches it.

That would make a difference of what, like 30 seconds over the course of the game?

You'd be surprised.
 

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If they really want to make a change then don't stop the clock on 1st downs. That would make the biggest difference.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
If they really want to make a change then don't stop the clock on 1st downs. That would make the biggest difference.

They did make that change.
 

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From Mack Brown: "They scored with six minutes left and the game was over before we had a chance to do anything... One of the great things about college football is a team's ability to come back".

From a different game that same day: "The Seminoles (2-0) scored two touchdowns in the final 6:12 to avoid what might have been the most embarrassing home loss in coach Bobby Bowden's 31 years coaching at the school."

Hmm. Six minutes left in each game. One team came back by scoring 14 points in six minutes. The other team needed 14 points and scored nothing. I think in both cases, the better team won.
 

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
If they really want to make a change then don't stop the clock on 1st downs. That would make the biggest difference.

They did make that change.

On change of possession yes but not for 1st downs. It still stops to move the chains unlike the NFL where it never stops.