is apple going to have a macbook pro 12" comming out with in the next 6months??? will it have merom when it comes out?
macbook pro 12"
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anarchyreigns
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There's a rumor that they will be coming out with a 13.3 inch one soon.
See here: http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/04/apple-has-13-3-inch-macbooks-on-the-way/
See here: http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/04/apple-has-13-3-inch-macbooks-on-the-way/
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slugg:
When you're using a laptop on your lap, the second mouse button doesn't matter as much. You won't be playing most games using a trackpad, and you certainly don't need it for general OS functions (it's important to note that Apple's UI guidelines insist that there always be a way to do something through the menu bar or a button, rather than allowing things to be 'hidden' under a right-button menu). If you've got it on a desk, then you just bring out a Bluetooth or USB mouse and have access to at least the usual three buttons plus scroll wheel of just about any mouse.
When you're using a laptop on your lap, the second mouse button doesn't matter as much. You won't be playing most games using a trackpad, and you certainly don't need it for general OS functions (it's important to note that Apple's UI guidelines insist that there always be a way to do something through the menu bar or a button, rather than allowing things to be 'hidden' under a right-button menu). If you've got it on a desk, then you just bring out a Bluetooth or USB mouse and have access to at least the usual three buttons plus scroll wheel of just about any mouse.
You realize you can use a 3rd party mouse in Macs, right?
Anyways, there's been rumors of a 13.3" version since before the release... in fact, people were convince the first laptops would be the 13.3 and 15.
No Merom right away. Apple will probably use Merom this coming fall, unless they work out a deal with Intel to get the chips ahead of everyone else.
The MacBookPro has bluetooth 2.0edr built in, so you can use pretty much any bluetooth mouse. Or you can plug in a USB mouse. Mac OS X (and even Mac OS 9 and 8) can use three buttons and scroll wheels right out of the box. Some companies, like Microsoft and Logitech, even make drivers for Mac OS X so you can make use of the nineteen buttons on their new mice. If your mouse has lots of buttons and no Mac drivers, there's always the generic USB Overdrive driver that will let you map the buttons to your liking.
The MacBookPro has bluetooth 2.0edr built in, so you can use pretty much any bluetooth mouse. Or you can plug in a USB mouse. Mac OS X (and even Mac OS 9 and 8) can use three buttons and scroll wheels right out of the box. Some companies, like Microsoft and Logitech, even make drivers for Mac OS X so you can make use of the nineteen buttons on their new mice. If your mouse has lots of buttons and no Mac drivers, there's always the generic USB Overdrive driver that will let you map the buttons to your liking.
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yes I understand that you can use third party mice on macs. I fully understand that you only NEED one mouse button in MacOS. But remember that things have changed and now apples can run windows. My point is, lets say I'm on the go and I'm only carrying the LAPTOP (no power adapter, no mouse, nothing). I'll be stuck with one mouse button. Oh and I forgot to mention that MacOS isnt for me. I'd be running XP if I ever got an apple. A 13.3 inch laptop should be plenty portable, and portability doesnt mean having to lug around an extra mouse. That's the same reason why I won't get a macbook pro. 2 mouse buttons and I'll snatch one in a heartbeat.
Eh, if you're going to run Windows as your primary OS, don't bother with a MacBook.
1) Don't support Apple, support a company that loves your OS of choice.
2) Windows is currently considered "second best" at Apple, not their primary focus by any means.
3) Apple currently doesn't provide drivers for the built-in webcam, remote control, backlit keyboard, automatic brightness control, or the usb modem. Several of the special buttons on the keyboard don't work in Windows either, so you'll have to adjust volume and screen brightness with sliders from the system tray.
4) Apple doesn't include or sell Windows, so that's an extra $80 - $300 depending on the version and source for Windows.
5) All of the bundled software (iLife- iMovie, iDVD, iPhoto, Soundtrack, iWeb; QuickBooksPro; etc) is for Mac OS X and is useless when you're in Windows. Meaning if you want those same features you're going to have to spend even more money for a decent video editing app, DVD video creation software, music creation software, download a photo app like picasa, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I love my MacBookPro, but if Windows is going to be your primary OS, do yourself a favor and get a Sager or Lenovo.
1) Don't support Apple, support a company that loves your OS of choice.
2) Windows is currently considered "second best" at Apple, not their primary focus by any means.
3) Apple currently doesn't provide drivers for the built-in webcam, remote control, backlit keyboard, automatic brightness control, or the usb modem. Several of the special buttons on the keyboard don't work in Windows either, so you'll have to adjust volume and screen brightness with sliders from the system tray.
4) Apple doesn't include or sell Windows, so that's an extra $80 - $300 depending on the version and source for Windows.
5) All of the bundled software (iLife- iMovie, iDVD, iPhoto, Soundtrack, iWeb; QuickBooksPro; etc) is for Mac OS X and is useless when you're in Windows. Meaning if you want those same features you're going to have to spend even more money for a decent video editing app, DVD video creation software, music creation software, download a photo app like picasa, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I love my MacBookPro, but if Windows is going to be your primary OS, do yourself a favor and get a Sager or Lenovo.
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Honestly, buying a Mac to run Windows is like buying a supercar to carry the groceries. You're not taking advantage of what the hardware does best, and it won't be the best for your purposes in the first place.
Also, have you tried OS X for a significant amount of time? I'm not going to suggest that people will "naturally" like OS X, but that's often the selling point for a Mac. Once you've used Exposé and Spotlight, you may find yourself wishing you could use them in Windows (and even Vista won't quite implement its imitations as well).
Also, have you tried OS X for a significant amount of time? I'm not going to suggest that people will "naturally" like OS X, but that's often the selling point for a Mac. Once you've used Exposé and Spotlight, you may find yourself wishing you could use them in Windows (and even Vista won't quite implement its imitations as well).
The one button argument is so lame. Do you keep the POS mouse that comes with your Dell? Are you still using your serial mouse from back when you had Windows 3.1? No of course not. It's called "upgrading". My Logitech MX500 works just fine on my MacBookPro. Plus in OSX I rarely need the second mouse button.Originally posted by: Koing
It REALLY sucks only having one mouse button. Two would be SO useful...
But then again I don't need a laptop
Koing
So you Windows fanboys need to get a better argument. Perhaps you can think about that while you're re-installing your OS due to the viruses and spyware you catch.
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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
The one button argument is so lame. Do you keep the POS mouse that comes with your Dell? Are you still using your serial mouse from back when you had Windows 3.1? No of course not. It's called "upgrading". My Logitech MX500 works just fine on my MacBookPro. Plus in OSX I rarely need the second mouse button.Originally posted by: Koing
It REALLY sucks only having one mouse button. Two would be SO useful...
But then again I don't need a laptop
Koing
So you Windows fanboys need to get a better argument. Perhaps you can think about that while you're re-installing your OS due to the viruses and spyware you catch.
Maybe to you, but not to me.
Laptop = portable and how portable is it when you are gimped with a one button mouse. I DON'T want to carry an extra mouse with me. I have never carried an extra mouse with laptops. I'm just so use to having the 2nd button and I'm a right click junkie
. I right click and do stuff and don't go through the menus.And wtf are yout alking about reinstalling Windows. My last install lasted since 2002 to 2006. 4yrs with no format. No spyware on my pc.
IF I got a MBP I'd use OS X on it and run Windows on the odd occasion. But the one button thing sucks to me.
Koing
Well then what the fvck are you doing in this thread? We're talking about Macbooks here. If you want to tell people you don't want to buy a laptop unless it has 2 mouse, then start your own thread.
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^^ hmm well that was really nice?
I just think that now that macs can run windows, Apple has a better chance to "convert" people over to apple hardware. In terms of their desktops, the mouse problem is easily solved since portability isnt an issue. With the MacBook, portability IS an issue, and being forced to carry an extra mouse to achieve the level of functionality a windows user would expect would lower their chances of a windows user to "convert" to apple hardware. While I do agree that by running windows on a mac you wont take full advantage of the machine, I also think that the REALITY is that people WILL buy macs to run windows on them. This is something Apple should take into consideration. Apple still makes money when they sell a computer to someone that's running bootcamp!
I just think that now that macs can run windows, Apple has a better chance to "convert" people over to apple hardware. In terms of their desktops, the mouse problem is easily solved since portability isnt an issue. With the MacBook, portability IS an issue, and being forced to carry an extra mouse to achieve the level of functionality a windows user would expect would lower their chances of a windows user to "convert" to apple hardware. While I do agree that by running windows on a mac you wont take full advantage of the machine, I also think that the REALITY is that people WILL buy macs to run windows on them. This is something Apple should take into consideration. Apple still makes money when they sell a computer to someone that's running bootcamp!
If the 13.3" rumor is true, that would be one sweet machine. IMHO that is the perfect portable screen size. It lets you have a decent-sized keyboard without wasting any space, and can work with XGA or SXGA+ just fine.
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Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
The one button argument is so lame. Do you keep the POS mouse that comes with your Dell? Are you still using your serial mouse from back when you had Windows 3.1? No of course not. It's called "upgrading". My Logitech MX500 works just fine on my MacBookPro. Plus in OSX I rarely need the second mouse button.Originally posted by: Koing
It REALLY sucks only having one mouse button. Two would be SO useful...
But then again I don't need a laptop
Koing
So you Windows fanboys need to get a better argument. Perhaps you can think about that while you're re-installing your OS due to the viruses and spyware you catch.
Maybe to you, but not to me.
Laptop = portable and how portable is it when you are gimped with a one button mouse. I DON'T want to carry an extra mouse with me. I have never carried an extra mouse with laptops. I'm just so use to having the 2nd button and I'm a right click junkie
And wtf are yout alking about reinstalling Windows. My last install lasted since 2002 to 2006. 4yrs with no format. No spyware on my pc.
IF I got a MBP I'd use OS X on it and run Windows on the odd occasion. But the one button thing sucks to me.
Koing
eh i thought it'd be a big deal when i bought my powerbook so i bought a bluetooth mouse. i've used it once. there just isn't any need for a 2 button mouse. and if i really feel the need to right click something i hold down the control key and click, and by magic the menu appears.
i'm a huge windows fanboy and i love xp, but there's no way i'm going to claim any install of windows i've done has lasted 4 years. maybe i use my pc and you don't, i dunno. but that just isn't reality.
edit: oh yeah, i got my pb last month (12" g4). the guy told me if i wanted an ibook or 17" powerbook to hold off, because new things were coming down the pipe soon (30-45 days). however he said if i wanted a 12" pb or mbp (duh) it was safe to go ahead and buy one because they hadn't heard about anything new coming anytime soon. take that as you will, this was before i had even looked at the powerbook (i went in looking at the ibook), but it was also an apple sales person.
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why would you buy an apple computer to run windows? that just doesn't make any sense. as a second OS with light usage? yes. i would install xp if i had a macbook just to game on. but as a main os? that just doesn't make any sense. after using os x for about a month i'm starting to prefer using my little 12" powerbook than my big 20" lcd pc, just because i'm starting to like OS x a lot better.
The answer is obvious: because of the hardware. It's hard for me to understand how someone could not see that. Apple makes sleek, stylish machines that are well-made. They're not the cheapest things going, but they are definitely of high quality.
Sure it is. The OS is stable enough. You definitely need to patch it regularly and use safe computing practices. One of my machines has been going for over four years with no format-- and I don't think I've turned it off in two years now besides required reboots for patches, and we did have one power outage.
I do think Microsoft has a super-crappy track record with security, though. After all the code reviews and everything, still major flaws pop up such as the recent WMF vulnerability. An operating system that can be infiltrated by the user viewing an image is programmed pretty poorly. If the code didn't ship with Windows and weren't used by the browser that's so tightly integrated with the OS as well as many other modules, I wouldn't have such a problem with it.
I have to disagree with you there. The support for XP on a MacBook isn't the greatest. There are a lot of devices with question marks in Device Manager when I boot into Windows using BootCamp. Sure I can play games fine with it, but it's not rock solid stable.
IMO, the only reason you should get a MacBook is if you are fine with running OS X. Buying a MacBook and wiping out OS X to install Windows is just stupid. Just buy a Thinkpad (like I believe you did) or a cheap Dell. Sure the Apple is stylish and well-made but so is a Thinkpad.
I'm just saying that the machines themselves are desirable, aside from the OS. That's why now that you can run Windows, even Windows junkies are tempted to buy them. You must be right about the issues; I have no idea. I definitely wouldn't buy a MacBook without any thought of playing with the OS; I'd probably use it a lot of the time and use Windows to run my Windows software.
I think most of the question mark labeled devices in the Device Manager are related to the ambient light sensor and the sudden motion gyro sensor, maybe the volume/brightness keys too. One of the question marked devices is labeled as a camera, so that's probably the built-in webcam.
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perhaps i overuse my machines, but after a year at most they need a reload to decrapify them. a clean install always runs nice and crisp, for a few months.
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to me that isn't an obvious answer. don't get me wrong, i love my powerbook. it's a nice little machine, but i could have gotten a much cheaper pc with better specs if i wanted to run windows.
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