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Mac user going PC, what to get?

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I just built a complete system (well, box) yesterday for about 750. Epox motherboard, 1.2 gig 266 tbird, 256 pc 133, 20 gig wd 7200, 32 meg ati xpert 2000, 56k v.90 modem, 300W case, win98se, 8432 cdrw, 16x dvd. I would have put 2k on, but the owner did not want it. You can built a great PC for 1000.
 
well i'm glad that you like them

but i would have suggested a full tower, win 2k, a better monitor (i could have bought the LG too but didn't think it was worth the risk)

and if he wanted an amd chip a t bird would have been on my list

and if he wanted an intel chip than at least a 1 ghz p3 chip with 2x the mem listed
 
if you guys are wondering what death is talking about, i had posted a link to sharky's $1000 pc complete with moniter. but i pulled it as i went back and saw that the guy that had started this thread had said $1000 without moniter
 


<< well i'm glad that you like them

but i would have suggested a full tower, win 2k, a better monitor (i could have bought the LG too but didn't think it was worth the risk)

and if he wanted an amd chip a t bird would have been on my list

and if he wanted an intel chip than at least a 1 ghz p3 chip with 2x the mem listed >>



they probably could have done all of that had they not wanted to stick with thier $1000 budget for a complete computer. but i dont see that you have any problem with the specific parts that they picked out (other than the moniter, but thats not the point here)

you can build a much more powerful pc for a certain price than a mac at the same price. O wait, you cant even build a mac that will run mac os, so...?
 
gosharks

i don't like to argue and i do agree with you that you can get a good machine for under 1k

but it may have problems and for people who like to have their machines up and running and not having to mess with it i would really suggest the best that pc's have to offer

there are many parts out there that are cheap, nics for example, that cause problems in OSs and people don't want to mess with it

instead they go buy macs or use some flavor of unix or something else

well the link you showed me was good but win 98 may give him more problems than he wants

 
While I do favor a AMD system I would say get yourself a Dell box and get some very good service and support for the price.
 
well what's funny about this thread is it got me thinking about all the things that are not the best in computers

bad modems, nics ,case fans, vid drivers, moving from one file structure to the other and back, sharp edges in boxes, low end monitors (i'm guilty of having a couple of these too), bad cdroms, low end mobo chipsets, low end psu, etc

bios conflicts with some pci that works in another box

app/driver/util/os comflicts

and then there's the third party products
 
well, its pretty hard to find that really cruddy stuff unless you are actually looking for it. as long as one stays with the &quot;crowd&quot; they will be fine as the major players in computer hardware know what they are doing
 
I am making solid AMD based computers fairly cheap locally, trying to spread to the internet market.

I will not sell something if I haven't used it myself and figured out all the bugs.

Site is still a week or so away from being up. DNS should be resolved by tomorrow. I would PM but yo uhad it turned off. I would PM you but your PM's are turned off.
 
yes if i could do it all over again my main machine in my sig would have been bigger

just for laughs i'll look at newegg and see what there regardless of price
 


<< yes if i could do it all over again my main machine in my sig would have been bigger

just for laughs i'll look at newegg and see what there regardless of price >>



Is your profile wrong, or does your wife's computer really beat the crap out of yours?
 
no my profile is correct

i built all of them and i financed, bought all of them and i am her tech support

i just listed her because the machines were intented for her use

as my sig suggests i'm really a biologist and many of us still use 486s

many biology people don't have a need for computers beyond off apps

i'm speaking from personal experience when i'm talking about the 1k barrier and all of the h/w s/w probs i've listed

plus there is more that's not worth mentioning

my wife is actually a mac person and i'm into h/w just because it's fast and powerful but when you have to format your win2k or you dual 98/2k every 3-6 mos you get unhappy with computers

personally i agree with you but if i was new to pc and spend money on an item i would rather spend more for something that works well than spend less for something that gives me probs every 3-6 mos

as it is now there's nothing that i really like about the systems i manage other than the fact that i never have to deal with the imac

lets not argue anymore

also i don't game the reason why we have that machine was that it was the first graphics machine we bought from a local store buget builder 2 yrs ago

and the only reason she would let me upgrade was for me to use the orginal machine for 'gaming'

many parts were changed but the gist of it is still there
 
interesting that you find that you format your pcs every few months, as i never format my win2k computers unless i do a hardware upgrade. i love windows 2000 and have not had anything the task manager could not take care of.
 
The properties of silicon allow electrons to move easier at higher temperatures, and thus there is a slight performance increase with a machine that has been running for a while compared to one that just started up.

hummmm.... I always learned that heated material produce MORE resistance than colder material. Why ? because heated material have atoms moving faster and making more collisions with other electrons while cold material has less oposition.

Thor
 


<< The properties of silicon allow electrons to move easier at higher temperatures, and thus there is a slight performance increase with a machine that has been running for a while compared to one that just started up.

hummmm.... I always learned that heated material produce MORE resistance than colder material. Why ? because heated material have atoms moving faster and making more collisions with other electrons while cold material has less oposition.

Thor >>



Yah the colder a computer the faster it will run, if they have the same clock speed.
 
Sub-1000 PC's don't have stability problems any more than over 1000 PC's. They just usually don't perform as fast or have fewer features. Quit posting your uninformed crap.
 
No a colder computer will not run faster at the same clock speed. 1000mhz is 1000mhz no matter what temperature the cpu is operating at.
 
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