Mac Philosophy

[Circlenaut]

How do you think the world would if the Mac had the compatibility of windows? Then Linux. Oh what about if you could run OS X on an IBM computer with the compatibility of windows.

 

[Killbat]

People would still drive drunk, children would still starve.

 

[Circlenaut]

In the tech world not general

 

[n0cmonkey]

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And from what I have seen Windows has very little compatibility.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

stop copulating.

 

[peto]

You do know you're allowed to edit your posts? And don't put Mac in all caps, that just leads to confusion.

 

[Circlenaut]

It's fixed now can you please get back to topic.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Both Linux and the Mac have great compatibility. Darwin actually runs on 2 platforms right now. Windows? 1.

 

[Lithium381]

Why can't we edit our posts?!?! Hrm, i think it would be great if it was all compatable, then i could print my reports out at school....it's getting better like with the web, mp3's and such and alot of files are becoming platform independant

 

[ElFenix]

MAC is a pet peeve of mine. i hate it when people do that. was a mac-ey myself once

 

[gopunk]

weeelll... imho, it doesn't really matter who's fault it is that they're not compatible, but mac, and possibly linux, though probably not, needs to work on compatibility with windows, since they're the underdog.

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< Why can't we edit our posts?!?! Hrm, i think it would be great if it was all compatable, then i could print my reports out at school....it's getting better like with the web, mp3's and such and alot of files are becoming platform independant >>



Blame the idiots using the proprietary closed source formats.

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< weeelll... imho, it doesn't really matter who's fault it is that they're not compatible, but mac, and possibly linux, though probably not, needs to work on compatibility with windows, since they're the underdog. >>



My Mac, My Linux machine, and my OpenBSD machine can connect with Windows machines over a network. I can get Office for my Mac if I really wanted to use it. I can convert .doc files to text files at a whim on my OpenBSD machine. I can use various office suites on my Linux machine. What kind of compatibility are we talking about here?

 

[ava]

With Virtual PC 5.0 and Windows 2000 I can run ANY applications you guys can except i do it while looking good on a Powerbook G4 667 I just love the sound of Windows 2000 / OS X / OS 9.2 it makes me feel all warm and tingly inside.

Ava

 

[ShotgunSteven]

My MAC is compatible with 9mm. I would like to get a MAC-10 that fires .45 ACP, though.

 

[gopunk]

What kind of compatibility are we talking about here?

which ever kind omnievil260 was talking about...

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< What kind of compatibility are we talking about here?

which ever kind omnievil260 was talking about... >>



I guess Ill have to wait until s/he responds then

 

[gopunk]

yea now that i think about it, i don't quite know what he/she was talking about either. but then again, i rarely have to work with mac files of any kind...

while we're on the topic of stuff we'd like to see, i'd like to see it become easier for people to build their own laptops. like they should start selling the cases and stuff, so that people can build their own! hopefully it'd be cheaper than the raping you get right now for laptops.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

maybe its the same kind of compatability thats mentioned in the phrase "IBM compatible"

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< maybe its the same kind of compatability thats mentioned in the phrase "IBM compatible" >>



If s/he means hardware compatibility, why bother with x86? Why not use a superior platform in the first place?

 

[kgraeme]

I'm a bit confused as well. Compatible as in I can transfer my MS Word or JPEG or Photoshop files from Windows to Mac? Sure, I can do that. Compatible in that I can connect my Mac to a Windows server and see all the files? Sure, I can do that. Without modifying the Windows server too. Compatible in that filenames on the Mac have to have the Windows 3-char filename extensions? Sure, OS X forces that on Mac users now too. :|:|:|

Or compatible in that I can run Windows executables on Mac? Hmm...that would be interesting. But then the Mac would probably have to give up all it's metadata and other advanced features (oops, OS X already has done that.) And Apple can't even get complete compatibility with their own legacy apps in the transition from the classic Mac OS to the new OS X.

Compatible in that OS X (not just the Darwin core) can run on x86 hardware? That could be cool, but Apple can't even make OS X fully compatible with their own hardware. They can't even get hardware acceleration running on older Rage II/Pro integrated video chipsets on supposedly "OS X compatible" hardware. Nor will USB CDRW drives that worked with OS 9 ever work with OS X, nor OEM SCSI cards included in Macs, etc, etc... If they can't do that, how are they supposed to support the multitude of chipsets/mobos/drives/cards/etc that are commonplace in the PC world?

I loved the Mac, and used it since it was introduced. But it is a niche platform, now more than ever. And OS X is so unfinished it's laughable. It's like working with an early beta release of Win2k. You can see a lot of potential, but it's so far from useable it's pathetic. Heck, Win2k was still having hardware driver issues for over a year after it was released. How long will the Mac with less than 5% marketshare take to get decent hardware support? Try never.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

<< I'm a bit confused as well. Compatible as in I can transfer my MS Word or JPEG or Photoshop files from Windows to Mac? Sure, I can do that. Compatible in that I can connect my Mac to a Windows server and see all the files? Sure, I can do that. Without modifying the Windows server too. Compatible in that filenames on the Mac have to have the Windows 3-char filename extensions? Sure, OS X forces that on Mac users now too. :|:|:|

Or compatible in that I can run Windows executables on Mac? Hmm...that would be interesting. But then the Mac would probably have to give up all it's metadata and other advanced features (oops, OS X already has done that.) And Apple can't even get complete compatibility with their own legacy apps in the transition from the classic Mac OS to the new OS X.

Compatible in that OS X (not just the Darwin core) can run on x86 hardware? That could be cool, but Apple can't even make OS X fully compatible with their own hardware. They can't even get hardware acceleration running on older Rage II/Pro integrated video chipsets on supposedly "OS X compatible" hardware. Nor will USB CDRW drives that worked with OS 9 ever work with OS X, nor OEM SCSI cards included in Macs, etc, etc... If they can't do that, how are they supposed to support the multitude of chipsets/mobos/drives/cards/etc that are commonplace in the PC world?

I loved the Mac, and used it since it was introduced. But it is a niche platform, now more than ever. And OS X is so unfinished it's laughable. It's like working with an early beta release of Win2k. You can see a lot of potential, but it's so far from useable it's pathetic. Heck, Win2k was still having hardware driver issues for over a year after it was released. How long will the Mac with less than 5% marketshare take to get decent hardware support? Try never. >>




8.3's been gone for a while.

 

[Circlenaut]

I'm saying when you can just go online an pick out a random program and run it. On the hardware side I'm talking about Peripherals. The Mac hardware is clearly the best. What if the Mac could have started the way PCs did not one company but many could make its hardware. Now If I think the Mac is all that then why do you think I'm still in front of a x86 computer. Oh and its not because I'm stupid, there the bigger picture. Bandwagon. Mostly all end users use windows (Thats includes the computer incopitant in between and the know it alls). Why do you think that is?

 

[thomsbrain]

How can I change the MAC on my NIC card?

 

[hans007]

well it depends. if apple had become the established platform long ago, i'd think compaq would have reveresed engineered their platform like they did with ibm, and we'd have clones and amd chips etc. but if like all of us just happened to use macs right now.

i think it would suck, since 90% of us would have to buy new g4s, since macs are overwhelmingly too slow to run os X if they dont have a g4 500mhz or higher in them.