Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion GM Released

[ViRGE]

Apple released the Golden Master (GM) version of OS X Mountain Lion to developers today. The "golden master" designation indicates that this version of the software is intended to be the final version released to the public, barring any last-minute issues. The Build is 12A269.

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/09/apple-seeds-golden-master-of-os-x-mountain-lion-to-developers/

 

[KeypoX]

sweet! I really like fast cycle times, hope windows and mac keep it up.

 

[RichieZ]

just installed it on my retina mbp, scrolling noticeably smoother but haven't noticed much else so far.

 

[dagamer34]

I can see why this was only cost $20, I've been using it for a day not much has changed. A few tiny improvements here and there, but nothing major. Probably the biggest difference is dictation in fact this entire comment was dictated using the new dictation feature on my OS 10.8 Mountain Lion.

 

[dawks]

Looks like my 4 year old Mac Pro just snuck on to the supported hardware list. Apparently it has to do with 64bit kext drivers... My Geforce 8800GT is still holding on strong. Video card support has been one of the sore spots for my Mac Pro.. wish it was easier to upgrade.

 

[joshhedge]

Hopefully this will allow me to finally upgrade from SL. Lion was a disaster for performance for my Macbook Pro.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

It's shocking how poorly Apple supports their products. You can easily install Windows 8 64bit on the very first Athlon 64 systems without any issue yet Apple is to lazy to write 64bit drivers for systems that are much newer.

I guess people using earlier Intel Macs should jump ship to Windows if they want to continue getting support.

 

[TheStu]

It's shocking how poorly Apple supports their products. You can easily install Windows 8 64bit on the very first Athlon 64 systems without any issue yet Apple is to lazy to write 64bit drivers for systems that are much newer.

I guess people using earlier Intel Macs should jump ship to Windows if they want to continue getting support.

I think that the consideration is the GPUs, particularly in the portables.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I think that the consideration is the GPUs, particularly in the portables.

The gpus aren't that bad, Windows 7/8 will run on ones much older without a problem.

 

[TheStu]

The gpus aren't that bad, Windows 7/8 will run on ones much older without a problem.

I know that they are trying to more with OpenCL and the like, things that rely upon the GPU. They might be aiming for a certain minimum level of performance to avoid things like Aero Classic vs Aero Glass.

Your point is valid though, I am just playing point/counter-point

 

[umrigar]

for one, nobody HAS to upgrade to Mountain Lion. most apps will run fine in 10.5, 10.6, or 10.7 for years to come.

yes, some developers stop supporting older OSes. it's how it goes, time moves forward.

my Macs are too old for 10.8, and frankly, i don't care. i don't even have 10.7 on them. 10.6 is fine, i can do pretty much everything i need to do under that OS.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

for one, nobody HAS to upgrade to Mountain Lion. most apps will run fine in 10.5, 10.6, or 10.7 for years to come.

yes, some developers stop supporting older OSes. it's how it goes, time moves forward.

my Macs are too old for 10.8, and frankly, i don't care. i don't even have 10.7 on them. 10.6 is fine, i can do pretty much everything i need to do under that OS.

10.5 support is all but gone at this point, even basic things like Chrome don't support it anymore. 10.6 will likely suffer the same fate in the very near future.

 

[umrigar]

i don't use Chrome.

10.6 will be fine for a couple more years, i bet.

how long do people, PC or Mac users, expect their hardware to last before they have to upgrade? 5 years isn't enough?

my work Macbook Pro is from Dec 2006. I'll probably get a new one at the end of this year.

 

[scootermaster]

Long live 64 bit! It's DOUBLE the, uh, "bits" of 32. It's TWICE as good! Can't wait for Mountain Lion!

 

[amdhunter]

When will this arrive in the app store? I'll be reimbursed anyway, so I want to update as soon as it gets out.

 

[umrigar]

PS: from Chrome's page:

"For Mac OS X 10.5 or later, Intel only"

 

[fr]

PS: from Chrome's page:

"For Mac OS X 10.5 or later, Intel only"

http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2599452

 

[umrigar]

OK.

but the old version will still run.

Chrome sucks balls anyway.

 

[slugg]

Apple gets praised when they make you pay $20 to $30 a year for service packs. If Microsoft were to do it, it'd start a riot.

Apple routinely drops support for older hardware. If Microsoft were to do it, they'd get mobbed.

Apple charges $1400 for a decent laptop with Mac OS. You can buy a decent PC laptop for $1000. People still say Microsoft's licenses are expensive.

Apple forces you to make an appointment to get your $3k machine serviced, then makes you wait for an hour because they're swamped, only to tell you that you need to pay them $400 to get it fixed in 7 to 10 business days. I called Lenovo, told them I poured water on my Thinkpad and it stopped working, and they came to my location at school the next day, installed a new keyboard, and went on their way. I bought my laptop for something like $800.

You know, there's a reason why businesses run on Windows. Mountain Lion just kinda reinforces the point...

 

[TheStu]

Apple gets praised when they make you pay $20 to $30 a year for service packs. If Microsoft were to do it, it'd start a riot.

Apple routinely drops support for older hardware. If Microsoft were to do it, they'd get mobbed.

Apple charges $1400 for a decent laptop with Mac OS. You can buy a decent PC laptop for $1000. People still say Microsoft's licenses are expensive.

Apple forces you to make an appointment to get your $3k machine serviced, then makes you wait for an hour because they're swamped, only to tell you that you need to pay them $400 to get it fixed in 7 to 10 business days. I called Lenovo, told them I poured water on my Thinkpad and it stopped working, and they came to my location at school the next day, installed a new keyboard, and went on their way. I bought my laptop for something like $800.

You know, there's a reason why businesses run on Windows. Mountain Lion just kinda reinforces the point...

1: Microsoft is charging $40 to upgrade to Windows 8, which I have heard some refer to as a service pack. They charged $100+ to upgrade from Vista to 7, and I know plenty of people called that a service pack.

2: I would cheer MS if they actually dropped support for legacy things. They did drop 16bit application support with 7 I think.

3: Not going to get into that, though I will say that the entry level cost of a Mac is $600, the entry level price for a portable is $1000, and the entry level Air is decent, albeit tiny.

4: Never had that problem, but I haven't ever had anything critical happen to my Macs.

 

[swanysto]

Can you upgrade from 10.6 to 10.8? I haven't ever upgraded a mac before. I don't know if I will cause all I use it for is photoshop, dreamweaver, lightroom, music, and browsing. As long as my current versions of those work, I should be fine.

 

[TheStu]

Can you upgrade from 10.6 to 10.8? I haven't ever upgraded a mac before. I don't know if I will cause all I use it for is photoshop, dreamweaver, lightroom, music, and browsing. As long as my current versions of those work, I should be fine.

I think that you should be able to go into the App Store on 10.6, and buy Mountain Lion from there.

 

[Tyranicus]

I would cheer MS if they actually dropped support for legacy things. They did drop 16bit application support with 7 I think.

The 64-bit versions of Vista and 7 do not support 16-bit applications. The 32-bit versions do.

 

[Dominato3r]

Vista to windows 7 was a $50 upgrade or free if you bought your PC a couple months prior to 7's launch

 

[amyklai]

1: Microsoft is charging $40 to upgrade to Windows 8, which I have heard some refer to as a service pack.

What? That's kinda ridiculous...