Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard delayed until October, because of the iPhone

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: fisher
ugh. apple is losing focus...again. go figure.

Losing focus, hardly. Apple is consumer electronics first and PCs second. They see that there is a lot more money to be made in consumer electronics then there is in Macs.

losing focus on their customers. most of us could give a rat's ass about the iphone. however, i would like to see leopard and the new versions of iwork/ilife released, as would most of the mac faithful.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: fisher
ugh. apple is losing focus...again. go figure.

Losing focus, hardly. Apple is consumer electronics first and PCs second. They see that there is a lot more money to be made in consumer electronics then there is in Macs.

losing focus on their customers. most of us could give a rat's ass about the iphone. however, i would like to see leopard and the new versions of iwork/ilife released, as would most of the mac faithful.

Most of Apple's customers don't own a Mac. They own Apple's main product, the iPod.

The iPhone is just an iPod with something a little extra.

 

[ignis fatuusz]

Oh boy. This one never gets old:

Originally posted by: drag
Quiz:
A. What is the company that bailed Apple out of Bankruptcy?
B. What is the company is the biggest software developer for OS X outside Apple itself?
C. What company could shutdown Apple in a blink of the eye if they felt like it?

Hint:
Apple fans frequently like to substitute specific letters of it's name with dollar symbols.

A. Microsoft invested $150M in non-voting stock in Apple upon Steve Jobs' return to the company. It's true that Office was a vital suite for the Mac at the time, but this in no way was a "bailout" of Apple, as they had around $4B (some reports say as low as $2B) in cash reserves at the time. Do the math: that's not bankruptcy.
B. That used to be the case; I'm not so sure about that position these days.
C. I don't think so. Apple today is much different than Apple circa 1996.

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Yes, the delay sucks. It really sucks. And it is a little humbling to Apple, I'm sure. But Microsoft apologists have no right whatsoever to compare this to the travesty that was Vista's development. Come back and whine when Leopard is delayed more than a year.

Another thing that most people aren't realizing is that Apple is shipping OS X 10.5 in June -- it's just not the Mac version. The iPhone will be running its own version of OS X 10.5, and from a tech evolution standpoint, that's far more significant than shipping the next iteration of their desktop OS. This (along with AppleTV) will bring OS X to the consumer electronic space, and "unleash the cats," so to speak, from the confines of desktop and laptop computers.

Whether or not the iPhone succeeds, it will be a watershed moment for all personal tech devices to come afterwards.

Exciting times indeed.

But yeah, the Leopard delay still sucks.

 

[stash]

Come back and whine when Leopard is delayed more than a year.

Sorry to break this to you, but by the time Leopard comes out (I guess Fall now?) it will be a year. Or did you forget that Leopard was supposed to ship before Vista?

Well, the next, really I'm very pleased to announce, that the next release of OS X is going to be called Leopard and we're not going to be focusing on it at this conference today, but we certainly will in the future and we intend to release Leopard at the end of 2006 or early 2007 right around the time when Microsoft is expected to release Longhorn

http://news.com.com/Apples+Intel+switch.../2100-1047_3-5748045-2.html?tag=st.num

Ooops.

Amazing how that limited resources deal works, isn't it?

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: drag
Hint:
Apple fans frequently like to substitute specific letters of it's name with dollar symbols.

please, i see more linux fans and moronic kids using the $ spelling more than apple fans.

 

[ignis fatuusz]

Originally posted by: stash

Come back and whine when Leopard is delayed more than a year.

Sorry to break this to you, but by the time Leopard comes out (I guess Fall now?) it will be a year. Or did you forget that Leopard was supposed to ship before Vista?

Well, the next, really I'm very pleased to announce, that the next release of OS X is going to be called Leopard and we're not going to be focusing on it at this conference today, but we certainly will in the future and we intend to release Leopard at the end of 2006 or early 2007 right around the time when Microsoft is expected to release Longhorn

http://news.com.com/Apples+Intel+switch.../2100-1047_3-5748045-2.html?tag=st.num

Ooops.

Amazing how that limited resources deal works, isn't it?

So how exactly do you equate "right around the time" to "before?"

This is the first delay for Leopard. Again, come back and rub it in Apple's face after October if it's delayed again. And again. And again. (How many times was Vista delayed again?)

I really don't see this as a big deal. Frustrating as hell, yes, but in the grand scheme of things, not really all that big a deal.

Although I *really* wanted to be playing around with Time Machine and Spaces this summer...oh, well. Fall, then.

 

[stash]

So how exactly do you equate "right around the time" to "before?"

Because at the time Jobs made that comment, most people outside of Microsoft were expecting Vista to ship in early 2007, not November 2006.

This is the first delay for Leopard. Again, come back and rub it in Apple's face after October if it's delayed again. And again. And again. (How many times was Vista delayed again?)

It is not the first delay for Leopard. After the end of 2006/beginning of 2007 time frame passed, it became Spring 2007 (now). And now it's October/Fall 2007. I'm not trying to rub anything in anyone's face. I'm just pointing out the irony and the hypocracy.

I really don't see this as a big deal. Frustrating as hell, yes, but in the grand scheme of things, not really all that big a deal.

You're right, it isn't a big deal. It is just ironic how when Microsoft delays because of limited resources, they suck, but when Apple delays for the same reason everyone takes it in stride.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Apple's losing at least one summer system sale because of this, and probably more. Plus 2+ purchases of OS X...