Mac OS 10.2 sucks :|....how do I get a command prompt?

[mcveigh]

damnit I have been trying to network 2 macs and a win95 laptop, what a PITA. I enables windows file sharing, but it's not working right.

how the hell can I get a command prompt to mess w/ samba? is there an easy commandline editor I can use?
can I set the root password for ssh logins?

 

[drag]

alright. Macs are weird, when you first use them you feel like you have one arm tied behaind your back, but after awhile you get use to it, and then its not realy that bad.

to get to the command line you go to aplications --> utilities --> terminal

it starts you off with a krsh shell (i think) but I use bash so I switch right away.

Root is normally disabled, this is done by giving it a blank password, so in order to become su you have to give root a password...

sudo passwd root

the administrative password and the root password is not the same thing, (but it can be).

Lots of people will tell you that just use sudo instead of allowing root to become active, but typing sudo before everything just irritates me.

But you shouldn't have to do that to connect to a smb (windows file and sharing) server. I just hit apple-k to open the connect dialog and then just pick the correct workgroup and stuff. Once you connect you can just drag the desktop network icon into the dock bar, just put it between the trash/disconnect icon and the line that seperated it from the shortcut icons. That way you don't have to redo the connect part, just hit the shortcut in the dock.

I wouldn't mess around to much in the command line untill you get familar with OS X. OS X can be pretty picky with the different settings and it's not that hard to accidentitly brake something just by doing simple stuff. Use the GUI crap first and then use the command line just for a backup control.

ALso if you are getting authentifaction errors and stuff you may need to download and install the Microsoft Authentification module thingy to deal with window's security (icompatability ) stuff. We have to do that in order to deal with the W2k's authentification and domain crap.

 

[n0cmonkey]

First, saying Mac OS X 10.2 sucks is not a good way to get help. Second, you are using Windows 95, maybe that is part of your problem. Third, terminal is easy to find if you bother to look. Forth, you should not be sshing anywhere as root. Fifth, sudo is 5 extra damn characters, quit whining. Six, vi is installed, which you would know if you had bothered to look for the terminal software. Seven, you are a misguided individual if you believe the stuff in your sig.

 

[robisc]

First, saying Mac OS X 10.2 sucks is not a good way to get help.

While I agree that this is not a good way to get help I don't agree with what you said about the following.

Seven, you are a misguided individual if you believe the stuff in your sig.

Let's not start flaming folks about what's in sigs, with that said IMO if you don't believe what is in mcveighs sig YOU are miguided.

 

[LuckyTaxi]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
First, saying Mac OS X 10.2 sucks is not a good way to get help. Second, you are using Windows 95, maybe that is part of your problem. Third, terminal is easy to find if you bother to look. Forth, you should not be sshing anywhere as root. Fifth, sudo is 5 extra damn characters, quit whining. Six, vi is installed, which you would know if you had bothered to look for the terminal software. Seven, you are a misguided individual if you believe the stuff in your sig.

LOL

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: drag
alright. Macs are weird, when you first use them you feel like you have one arm tied behaind your back, but after awhile you get use to it, and then its not realy that bad.

to get to the command line you go to aplications --> utilities --> terminal

it starts you off with a krsh shell (i think)

tcsh.

but I use bash so I switch right away.

Ooh, you have issues.

Root is normally disabled, this is done by giving it a blank password, so in order to become su you have to give root a password...

sudo passwd root

the administrative password and the root password is not the same thing, (but it can be).

Lots of people will tell you that just use sudo instead of allowing root to become active, but typing sudo before everything just irritates me.

boohoo

But you shouldn't have to do that to connect to a smb (windows file and sharing) server. I just hit apple-k to open the connect dialog and then just pick the correct workgroup and stuff. Once you connect you can just drag the desktop network icon into the dock bar, just put it between the trash/disconnect icon and the line that seperated it from the shortcut icons. That way you don't have to redo the connect part, just hit the shortcut in the dock.

If he is trying to connect from a Windows 95 machine to an SMB server on a Mac, he may have to edit it. But I would be more apt to blame the Windows 95 client.

I wouldn't mess around to much in the command line untill you get familar with OS X. OS X can be pretty picky with the different settings and it's not that hard to accidentitly brake something just by doing simple stuff. Use the GUI crap first and then use the command line just for a backup control.

I have only had a few problems with my Mac, and none of it hosed me.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: robisc

First, saying Mac OS X 10.2 sucks is not a good way to get help.

While I agree that this is not a good way to get help I don't agree with what you said about the following.

Seven, you are a misguided individual if you believe the stuff in your sig.

Let's not start flaming folks about what's in sigs, with that said IMO if you don't believe what is in mcveighs sig YOU are miguided.

Do as I say, not as I do? Screw that. I wanted a 7th thing to say.

I'll explain my thinking here:

"ISLAM IS A RELIGION IN WHICH GOD REQUIRES YOU TO SEND YOUR SON TO DIE FOR HIM."

How many crusades were there? How many times has Bush mentioned god in his speeched when describing our efforts against the non-US approved dictatorial regimes of the Middle East? Christians and Jews and just about every other religion of the time sent their sons to die in wars long before Islam came into existance.

"CHRISTIANITY IS A FAITH IN WHICH GOD SENT HIS SON TO DIE FOR YOU."

While this is believed to be true by Christians (and I am not denying the possibility), see my response to the first line of this part of the sig.

I find the cute little poem comparing soldiers to a New Testament God to be humorous, so I don't have anything too bad to that. Bow down and worship the almighty a-bomb.

 

[mcveigh]

I'm pissed at the damn thing because as much time as I spent looking throught the mac help files not once did I find where to open a command prompt. I had no decent internet connection where I was which didn't help as it often wanted to go online to get the "answer". all I kept finding was things I could do with a command prompt, not how to get there.

also I apoligize if I offended anyone about macs, I actually do like them. I was pissed and the title was more tongue in cheek than anything else. and I still want a powerbook... thansk for the help people

as for my sig, well I change it a lot and to each their own

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: mcveigh
I'm pissed at the damn thing because as much time as I spent looking throught the mac help files not once did I find where to open a command prompt. I had no decent internet connection where I was which didn't help as it often wanted to go online to get the "answer". all I kept finding was things I could do with a command prompt, not how to get there.

I can understand frustration, and I would have included more information if the questions weren't already answered

also I apoligize if I offended anyone about macs, I actually do like them. I was pissed and the title was more tongue in cheek than anything else. and I still want a powerbook... thansk for the help people

as for my sig, well I change it a lot and to each their own

I don't think you should change it. Just stating my opinion