Mac/iPhone development box for cheap

Jim Bancroft

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I'm going to (finally) start developing in Objective-C for iPhone/iPad work. My apps won't be speed blazer games and as a result I'd like to get a fairly cheap laptop that will support XCode 5 and run the emulators at good speed.

My understanding is that it's possible to get OSX running on (say) a Dell or other PC, but it's tricky stuff and I'm not sure I want that hassle. Could be wrong but that's what I've heard from hacker friends.

I know next to nothing about the refurb Apple ecosystem but a decent laptop that has a recent OS on it is what I'm after. Any and all suggestions welcome (along with approx street prices) and thanks.
 

Rakehellion

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You can get a used MacBook on Amazon for about $200, but you'll want a recent GPU to run the latest Mac OS. You don't need anything fancy for iOS development.

If your budget is higher than that, then you can definitely get something nice.
 

DaveSimmons

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Does it have to be a laptop? A Mac Mini is another choice if you already have a desktop monitor. Either use a KVM switch or attach it to a different port on the monitor and use the monitor source select button.

Be careful about older, used models for both laptops and minis. We have a core 1 solo mini at work that can't be upgraded past OS X 10.6.
 

Jim Bancroft

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Does it have to be a laptop? A Mac Mini is another choice if you already have a desktop monitor. Either use a KVM switch or attach it to a different port on the monitor and use the monitor source select button.

Be careful about older, used models for both laptops and minis. We have a core 1 solo mini at work that can't be upgraded past OS X 10.6.

Thanks for asking; no it doesn't have to be a laptop. I thought a used one would be the way to go but if a mini works too, that's fine as well.

I would like something that won't be obsolete for dev work in the next 1.5-2 years and am a complete neophyte on Mac OSX versions and would appreciate any advice on that front. (I don't want to get a box that can't be upgraded to a recent OS and therefore be skunked whenever Xcode 6 comes out.) Thanks again..
 

DaveSimmons

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Buying new:

A new dual-core i5 - 2.5 GHz mini (500 GB HD) is $600, a quad-core i7 - 2.3 GHz(1 TB) is $800. You need to bring your own monitor, mouse and keyboard.

The $900-1200 Air laptops have 1.x GHz CPUs and 128 - 256 GB SSDs.

The $1200 Pro laptop is like the $600 mini but with screen and battery.

The minis win on CPU power, the Air laptops win on disk speed, the Pro wins on being a portable mini.

Any of them should be fine for XCode development. If you buy new you'll definitely be OK for upgrading OS X for several years.

Used prices on recent mini and Air models don't seem to give much of a discount when I check them at amazon -- you might only save $50 used. Use Pro models offer better discounts - I see "very good" condition offers for $850-900.

If you looked up 2010 - 2011 models in wiki or Google they might be fine, but you'd be giving up some speed, a warranty, and that new computer smell :)
 
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dma0991

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Its better to get a new Mac Mini or get a used one. Mac Mini is the cheapest option there is (new) if you'd just want to use Mac OS for development purposes.
 

TheStu

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Buying new:

A new dual-core i5 - 2.5 GHz mini (500 GB HD) is $600, a quad-core i7 - 2.3 GHz(1 TB) is $800. You need to bring your own monitor, mouse and keyboard.

The $900-1200 Air laptops have 1.x GHz CPUs and 128 - 256 GB SSDs.

The $1200 Pro laptop is like the $600 mini but with screen and battery.

The minis win on CPU power, the Air laptops win on disk speed, the Pro wins on being a portable mini.

Any of them should be fine for XCode development. If you buy new you'll definitely be OK for upgrading OS X for several years.

Used prices on recent mini and Air models don't seem to give much of a discount when I check them at amazon -- you might only save $50 used. Use Pro models offer better discounts - I see "very good" condition offers for $850-900.

If you looked up 2010 - 2011 models in wiki or Google they might be fine, but you'd be giving up some speed, a warranty, and that new computer smell :)

I wouldn't recommend the non-retina Pro to anyone. It's $100 more to get the 13" retina Pro, and that $100 gets you a much better display, a PCIe SSD, more battery life, better GPU, and Haswell CPUs.

OP can also try for a refurb, sometimes you can get good deals on them. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac
 

DaveSimmons

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I wouldn't recommend the non-retina Pro to anyone. It's $100 more to get the 13" retina Pro, and that $100 gets you a much better display, a PCIe SSD, more battery life, better GPU, and Haswell CPUs.

OP can also try for a refurb, sometimes you can get good deals on them. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac

Good points. Those refurb prices are better than used sellers on Amazon and come with a full 1-year warranty.
 

TheStu

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Good points. Those refurb prices are better than used sellers on Amazon and come with a full 1-year warranty.

Apple refurbs are great. They aren't scratch-and-dent like some places, they are returned or repaired systems that come with all the same benefits of a non-refurbished Mac.