MAC commercial

[Maxspeed996]

What's with that line in the commercial! I about freaked out. "Runs Vista Faster than a PC". Has anyone paid attention to that , or care to comment about it?

 

[soonerproud]

I call bullshit!

A Mac is nothing more than a PC with a different operating system. The parts are all still commodity pc parts.

 

[htne]

It comes from here, at PC World:
http://www.pcworld.com/article...notebooks/article.html

The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year (through 10/25/07) is a Mac. Try that again: The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year--or for that matter, ever--is a Mac. Not a Dell, not a Toshiba, not even an Alienware. The $2419 (plus the price of a copy of Windows Vista, of course) MacBook Pro's PC WorldBench 6 Beta 2 score of 88 beats Gateway's E-265M by a single point, but the MacBook's score is far more impressive simply because Apple couldn't care less whether you run Windows.

 

[soonerproud]

Originally posted by: htne
It comes from here, at PC World:
http://www.pcworld.com/article...notebooks/article.html

The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year (through 10/25/07) is a Mac. Try that again: The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year--or for that matter, ever--is a Mac. Not a Dell, not a Toshiba, not even an Alienware. The $2419 (plus the price of a copy of Windows Vista, of course) MacBook Pro's PC WorldBench 6 Beta 2 score of 88 beats Gateway's E-265M by a single point, but the MacBook's score is far more impressive simply because Apple couldn't care less whether you run Windows.

I read the article before and it is flawed. There are too many notebooks on the market to really make a determination that the Macbook is the fastest notebook. It was the fastest of the notebooks tested, but it is still a big leap to say Vista runs better on a Mac than a PC.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

We test many notebooks throughout the year, so we see some pretty interesting portables. We picked out the extremes in the products we've tested since the first of the year--the fastest, the slowest, the biggest, the smallest, and the most stylish.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: soonerproud

Originally posted by: htne
It comes from here, at PC World:
http://www.pcworld.com/article...notebooks/article.html

The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year (through 10/25/07) is a Mac. Try that again: The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year--or for that matter, ever--is a Mac. Not a Dell, not a Toshiba, not even an Alienware. The $2419 (plus the price of a copy of Windows Vista, of course) MacBook Pro's PC WorldBench 6 Beta 2 score of 88 beats Gateway's E-265M by a single point, but the MacBook's score is far more impressive simply because Apple couldn't care less whether you run Windows.

I read the article before and it is flawed. There are too many notebooks on the market to really make a determination that the Macbook is the fastest notebook. It was the fastest of the notebooks tested, but it is still a big leap to say Vista runs better on a Mac than a PC.

Which puts its truthiness factor about in line with your average mac commercial.

Still though, they are pretty damn effective commercials as far as I can tell. My favorite was the commercial where they were talking about how you needed to "upgrade everything in your computer" to run Vista, like the alternative of buying a whole new Mac, moving all your files over, trashing your old PC and learning how to use OSX when XP is perfectly fine is actually supposed to be cheaper, better or simpler.

I've actually got mac addict friends convinced that a 1 button touchpad/mouse is better because its "simple and elegant", while completely missing the irony of the 100 or so buttons right above it.

 

[soonerproud]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
We test many notebooks throughout the year, so we see some pretty interesting portables. We picked out the extremes in the products we've tested since the first of the year--the fastest, the slowest, the biggest, the smallest, and the most stylish.

One of the things I like about PCWorld over that other PC based Magazine is the staff is much more professional in their reviews and the journalism is usually professional and fair. This is one of the rare cases where the conclusion was overstated and not given the proper caveat. I expect this kind of stuff from Dvorak, but was disappointed to see it happening at PCWorld.

In order to make a proper conclusion that the Mac runs Vista faster than a PC, you would need to test all models against comparable PC models. You would need to have all the major OEM's represented that make comparable systems. Until this happens there is no way you can make an accurate conclusion that a Mac runs Vista faster than a PC.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: soonerproud

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
We test many notebooks throughout the year, so we see some pretty interesting portables. We picked out the extremes in the products we've tested since the first of the year--the fastest, the slowest, the biggest, the smallest, and the most stylish.

One of the things I like about PCWorld over that other PC based Magazine is the staff is much more professional in their reviews and the journalism is usually professional and fair. This is one of the rare cases where the conclusion was overstated and not given the proper caveat. I expect this kind of stuff from Dvorak, but was disappointed to see it happening at PCWorld.

In order to make a proper conclusion that the Mac runs Vista faster than a PC, you would need to test all models against comparable PC models. You would need to have all the major OEM's represented that make comparable systems. Until this happens there is no way you can make an accurate conclusion that a Mac runs Vista faster than a PC.

I bet it sure sold magazines though.

 

[Nothinman]

The most ironic aspect of all is that a Mac is just another brand of Personal Computer...

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
The most ironic aspect of all is that a Mac is just another brand of Personal Computer...

And running on just about the same x86 PC hardware available to other notebook manufacturers.

 

[Nothinman]

Even when they weren't Intel-based they were still personal computers, the whole distinction is pretty stupid.

 

[postmortemIA]

The notebook with RAID0 is faster than any mac notebook, and apple doesn't have such. Stupid marketing and stupid PC world sensationalist journalism.

Basically, just antagonizing me to never buy anything by apple.

 

[Nothinman]

The notebook with RAID0 is faster than any mac notebook, and apple doesn't have such

But buying a ~12lb notebook with 2 drives just to RAID0 them is pretty retarded and kills the portability aspect of it.

Basically, just antagonizing me to never buy anything by apple.

If marketing like that really bothers you that much you must not own anything.