ma bell coming back!
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Lifer
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Are you an AT&T stockholder?Originally posted by: Slew Foot
As a stockholder, I say, good!
What's an even bigger deal is the demise of the Cingular Brand.
When AT&T was broken up in 1982, Judge Greene's analysis was long on free market dynamics. The lynchpin was that the breakup was necessary then to create a level playing field on which more players could compete and the result would be more technolgy cheaper for consumers. Which is what we have today. But Judge Greene does not think that market conditions have changed enough since then to allow this recombination.
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Are you an AT&T stockholder?Originally posted by: Slew Foot
As a stockholder, I say, good!
What's an even bigger deal is the demise of the Cingular Brand.
Didn't Bellsouth/Cingular buy out AT&T's cellular division? And now I guess AT&T is buying it back when they get Bellsouth?
Cingular is jointly owned between Bellsouth and SBC (now AT&T). The ownership is 60 (SBC/AT&T) / 40 (Bellsouth). Managerial decisions are divided 50/50.
Cingular will remain, they are just dropping the name in favor of AT&T (name recognition etc).
Being an employee of Bellsouth (err AT&T) is gonna be very interesting in the next few months, I work in the operations segment of the Internet Side (Bellsouth Dot Net), as an admin for VPN and Big Biz accounts (networking etc). We have been assured our jobs are safe for the immediate future, but only time will tell.
Bellsouth employee today, AT&T by Friday?
Cingular will remain, they are just dropping the name in favor of AT&T (name recognition etc).
Being an employee of Bellsouth (err AT&T) is gonna be very interesting in the next few months, I work in the operations segment of the Internet Side (Bellsouth Dot Net), as an admin for VPN and Big Biz accounts (networking etc). We have been assured our jobs are safe for the immediate future, but only time will tell.
Bellsouth employee today, AT&T by Friday?
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I for one welcome our new SBC overlords.
They cannot be any worse than Bell South, maybe they will improve Bell South in my area.... cant make it worse.
They cannot be any worse than Bell South, maybe they will improve Bell South in my area.... cant make it worse.
Actually, Judge Green is not currently thinking anything, since he's dead now!
As a person who has a close association with the outcome of this merger, here's my two cents:
The link referenced above was about ten years ago. Ten years is a long time, especially when talking about technology. It can be said that more competition in the local market has come, mainly from cable, cell compaines (especially since local number portability), and even from VOIP and municipal wi-fi. AT&T is no where put back together again, it's lost all of it's manufacturing arm, and long distance is so cheap it's usually thown in a part of a bundle package. Local access lines have been steadily dwindling over the years as people migrate to cell and VOIP.
No, the real battle is between cable (or other high-speed access that is not DSL) and the phone companies. The phone companies still have lots of copper out ther to either replace or upgrade, and so they see their main competition as cable. Everybody is looking for the magic 'bundling' solution, one company to deliver your phone (cell and wireline), high-speed access, television (especially HDTV, IPTV and on-demand video access), and do it for one price. Cable compainies are trying to convince you that they are a good phone company, and the phone company is trying to convince you they are a good cable company.
Therefore, it all boils down to whether you believe the new AT&T is still dominant in some sector of it's market. We'll just have to wait and see.
Great post DanceMan.
It's all about the "triple play" with the cable companies battling the telcos. Eitherway the consumer is going to win. I see this merger as a good thing to balance the power somewhat.
It's all about the "triple play" with the cable companies battling the telcos. Eitherway the consumer is going to win. I see this merger as a good thing to balance the power somewhat.
The point is that the competition the break-up produced was good for consumers. If mergers are going to decrease competition, perhaps the merger should not be allowed.
There is so much choice and competition now that this merger had to happen to remain competative. I have personally seen prices decrease dramatically year over year from the telcos.
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I used to have Ameritech as a phone company---and they were really arrogant and bad---then sbc gobbled up Ameritech --and were even worse---now they call themselves AT&T.
And they still arrogant and bad---those that think things can't get worse---you may be in for a rather unpleasant surprise if you are just starting out with At&T.
And they still arrogant and bad---those that think things can't get worse---you may be in for a rather unpleasant surprise if you are just starting out with At&T.
I am currently subscribing to AT&Ts triple play which is running over VDSL. This merger is a good thing.
San Antonio, eh?
The services we are going to see in the next few years are nothing short of incredible. And the price? Unbelievable. Consumer is going to win big time. With most people having the choice in broadband, voice and video nothing but good can come from this.
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quick question as I travel to San Antonio on buisness. Does the local cable company offer a competing product? I would assume they do.
The cable companies are acting like U-verse is not a threat, but it is going chip away at their market share without a doubt.
Yep. The cable companies gobbled up voice and broadband. Telcos don't like losing customers, neither do cable companies. Sattelite can't offer what those that have a line into the home can. It's a wonderful time for consumers.
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Bellsouth was working on an IP-TV intiative that would match or exceed anything Cable has to offer right now, On Demand would look like a mom and pop video store compared to what we were going to have readily available on our Media Storage servers. There was a test trial planned for Cobb county GA, but the merger / buyout put quite a few things on hold...which makes sense of course. The only thing we have been able to keep going on was a managed VOIP solution for big businesses (we just couldnt wait any longer) which is getting launched in the next week or so (Edgewater networks etc).
The future is looking very nice for consumers indeed
ADSL 2+ (fiber to the curb, last mile is copper...2 bonded pairs for up to 24M down...Yes, FIOS beats this handily, but Verizon is losing their asses for the next few years on each FIOS connection they make)
IPTV (thousands and thousands of movies "on demand", selection to put cable to shame)
Voip
One Phone One Connection (Phone that senses its homebase and switches from Cell to landline / VOIP on the fly...you drive away from home and you have cell access etc etc)
Verizon and Qwest are no longer our true competition, its Comcast and Cox for the Southeast...For Bellsouth to survive, this buyout is necassary.
The future is looking very nice for consumers indeed
ADSL 2+ (fiber to the curb, last mile is copper...2 bonded pairs for up to 24M down...Yes, FIOS beats this handily, but Verizon is losing their asses for the next few years on each FIOS connection they make)
IPTV (thousands and thousands of movies "on demand", selection to put cable to shame)
Voip
One Phone One Connection (Phone that senses its homebase and switches from Cell to landline / VOIP on the fly...you drive away from home and you have cell access etc etc)
Verizon and Qwest are no longer our true competition, its Comcast and Cox for the Southeast...For Bellsouth to survive, this buyout is necassary.
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