M/B standoff screw in the way of AGP......

[OfficeDude]

Last night I posted a problem of not being able to get my computer to power up. I got 4 beeps, nothing ever popped up on the screen. The m/b is a Shuttle Kt266a by the way. Someone sugggested that four beeps means the video card is not seated in enough, but I pushed that sucker in pretty good, but the metal slot still would not get flush with the case. It had a few centimeters between the edge of the case where the screw hole was, and the metal slot on the video card. Today I tried reseating the video card, and I heard something break off. Low and behold.....it was the standoff screw on the motherboard. I hit myself over the head, because the video card could not get seated properly because the video card was touching the standoff screw. I did not even notice the standoff screw was in the way until it broke off. Do I take off the standoff screw or what? I have no extra hole to put another standoff, so will three secure standoffs out of four be okay? I really hope I didn't hurt the video card or motherboard because of this, I can't believe I didn't notice this before I can't lean the video card one way or the other to get it out of the way of the standoff screw, it still gets in the way. Since I was only subjecting the edge of the video card to rub against the standoff screw, it will not damage the video card right? Also, if the standoff screw wiggles back and forth, it will not damage anything since traces are not near those holes correct?

 

[HappyPuppy]

Standoffs go under the motherboard. How are you hitting a standoff with the agp vid card? Looking at a couple of mobos I have sitting here there aren't any mounting holes within an inch or two of the AGP slot. Also, I have always been able to mount motherboards with at least 8 standoffs and screws. Maybe you could explain what you're seeing in a little more detail.

 

[OfficeDude]

My bad, I worded it wrong. The screw you secure onto the standoff is in the way. Will three of the four screws be okay to hold the motherboard? I have an Antec case and I only have 4 standoffs.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

ok hold on a sec...you mean the big long things? like a screw at one end and a hex shaped head at the other? those go UNDER the motherboard, directly into the case. like you look inside the empty case and you'll see a bunch of hole, those screw in there. then you put the mobo on top of those little hex heads, then put a tiny screw through the mobo to mate with the hex on the other side. or maybe im still misunderstanding

 

[HappyPuppy]

That's the problem I'm having. I can't quite picture what is going on. I've heard Antec cases are very good and there should be more than 4 standoff holes that line up with the holes in the mobo. 4 isn't enough. There will be too much flex in the board.

 

[OfficeDude]

<< ok hold on a sec...you mean the big long things? like a screw at one end and a hex shaped head at the other? those go UNDER the motherboard, directly into the case. like you look inside the empty case and you'll see a bunch of hole, those screw in there. then you put the mobo on top of those little hex heads, then put a tiny screw through the mobo to mate with the hex on the other side. or maybe im still misunderstanding >>


Okay, I'm a newbie at this as you can tell
The standoff is the metal things ATTACHED to the case, you line up the holes in the motherboard with those standoffs. Once you do that, you take those weird looking screws and secure it to the standoff. The standoff is on one side, the screw is on the other. The weird screw thing is in my way. Just wanted to clear everything up My question is if it is okay just using three of the four standoff screws to secure the motherboard.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

that's the only thing i could think off too puppy. only those mounts would get in the way, a regular screw would just be too short. i probably wouldnt use less than 5, and put the little rubber/plastic jobs where there is mobo holes but no mount.

 

[OfficeDude]

<< That's the problem I'm having. I can't quite picture what is going on. I've heard Antec cases are very good and there should be more than 4 standoff holes that line up with the holes in the mobo. 4 isn't enough. There will be too much flex in the board. >>


I only got four standoffs I noticed I had a few extra standoff screws, but no place to use them. I wish I knew this before I'm a newbie at this, so I thought since they only gave me four standoffs, it should be okay. Where am I supposed to get more standoffs? Call up Antec?

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

hummzors...just trying to make sure you aint gonna fry something when you start it up (short something). the "standoffs", are they just raised lumps of the tray in the case? or are they removable screws? we may all be talking about different things what im thinking is you have it like this:

mobo directly touching the lumpy parts of the case
those long hex screw things securing the mobo to the case
video card wont fit because according to this pic mobo pic, you have one of those long screws in the hole behind the agp slot. right? if so this is incorrect. any chance you have a digital camera? maybe im just teh st00pid and dont understand whats going on just trying to be safe and make sure you dont hurt anything.

 

[Mem]

<< I only got four standoffs >>



Use the 4 then,my friend only ever uses 4 stand offs on his board and it works fine.

 

[HappyPuppy]

You can get standoffs at any computer store or at Radio Shack if you have one close by.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

manual, a pdf manual, look at page 2 under mobo installation, explains it better than i can.
put mobo in
look for mounts
take mobo out
put standoffs into those mounts
put mobo back in
screw mobo into those standoffs
tada

 

[HappyPuppy]

Don't put a standoff under the AGP card. Put it somewhere else.

 

[OfficeDude]

<< hummzors...just trying to make sure you aint gonna fry something when you start it up (short something). the "standoffs", are they just raised lumps of the tray in the case? or are they removable screws? we may all be talking about different things what im thinking is you have it like this:

mobo directly touching the lumpy parts of the case
those long hex screw things securing the mobo to the case
video card wont fit because according to this pic mobo pic, you have one of those long screws in the hole behind the agp slot. right? if so this is incorrect. any chance you have a digital camera? maybe im just teh st00pid and dont understand whats going on just trying to be safe and make sure you dont hurt anything. >>


Just to be completely sure, standoffs are the screw things attached to the case that stick out. You line those up with the holes on the m/b, set it on the standoff, screw in the standoff screws. Motherboard doesn't touch case, it's raised by the standoffs.

I just worded my problem wrong, I knew those things under the motherboard were the standoffs, but the screw attaches to the standoff so I accidentally called that a standoff instead of what it really is...a screw that attaches to the standoff.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Sounds like you're getting it now. Mobo sits on standoffs and Phillips head screws go through mobo and into standoffs. If one of them is under your AGP card, move it so the card can be seated properly.

 

[OfficeDude]

<< manual, a pdf manual, look at page 2 under mobo installation, explains it better than i can.
put mobo in
look for mounts
take mobo out
put standoffs into those mounts
put mobo back in
screw mobo into those standoffs
tada >>


I thought it was peculiar to have a standoff right by the AGP, I was actually thinking the screw might get in the way......but I thought that since Antec put the standoff there, you shouldn't change it, and I didn't even know you could take the standoff out and put it on another hole. I have the computer all setup at this time, connections and all. I guess I'll unfasten the standoff screws after a quick trip to Radio Shack, and slip one or two more standoffs under the m/b.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Keep us posted. We like success stories.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

just because i figured out my isp's FTP server and i can host files, here is a homedrawn pic of what it should look like if you are viewing it from the top edge of the mobo, towards the bottom of the case
case pic

 

[HappyPuppy]

What version of AutoCad are you running BrunoPuntzJones. Hee-Hee-Hee!
Just joking.
I think OfficeDude went to Radio Shack to get some more standoffs.

 

[OfficeDude]

<< What version of AutoCad are you running BrunoPuntzJones. Hee-Hee-Hee!
Just joking.
I think OfficeDude went to Radio Shack to get some more standoffs. >>


Radio Shack closed at 5 pm, so I'll have to wait till tomorrow

 

[IndyJaws]

Bruno, I'd be willing to bet that signed copies of your art would bring in big $$$ on FleaBay

Nice effort!

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

 

[DaLeroy]

<< just because i figured out my isp's FTP server and i can host files, here is a homedrawn pic of what it should look like if you are viewing it from the top edge of the mobo, towards the bottom of the case
case pic >>



ROTFLMAO!!!

That's a classic!!