lynnfield vs Sandy

[Jonnyblack01]

Hi!

Iwould like some help from you guys, my english is not the best so forgive me if isay things that doesnt make sense.

Im looking to upgrade my agging 775 system with an Intel E2140 @ 3Ghz with some new hardware. last year I purched a HD5870 and a monitor 1920x1080 and Iknow my cpu bottlenecked me all year the frames didnt improve that much, only could max AA/AF etc.

So my question is - here where I live prices are insane. so Ican get a i5-750 + p55+1600mhz DDR3 for ~227$ US dollar. or should Igo with the new Sandy for i5-2500k+p67+DDR3 1600mhz DDR for 447$?

Is the sandy really worth twice the price as the first generation i5 processors?

whats your thoughts which one should iget.

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

[Ken g6]

The problem is the socket for the i5-750, LGA1156, is a dead-end.

If you want to save some money, try getting a Q8400 or something for your current board, and overclocking it. (You have a good cooler on that CPU, right? If not, I believe there are coolers that will work for both 775 and 1155.)

 

[Cerb]

...how much would a 2120 combo be? It would be generally comparable to a i5-750 (losing in heavily threaded programs, but winning here and there).

No way is the SB worth twice the price, though OC is easier with the 2500K.

 

[sangyup81]

If you want to save some money, try getting a Q8400 or something for your current board, and overclocking it.

+1

 

[toyota]

...how much would a 2120 combo be? It would be generally comparable to a i5-750 (losing in heavily threaded programs, but winning here and there).

No way is the SB worth twice the price, though OC is easier with the 2500K.

does the 2120k even exist???

 

[sangyup81]

does the 2120k even exist???

If anyone finds one, let me know!

 

[Jonnyblack01]

The problem is the socket for the i5-750, LGA1156, is a dead-end.

If you want to save some money, try getting a Q8400 or something for your current board, and overclocking it. (You have a good cooler on that CPU, right? If not, I believe there are coolers that will work for both 775 and 1155.)

Can't do that, my board is so old that doesn't support Quad core's. as for Dual vs Quad cores. Iwould like to get quad core for games like BF3 that have support for a quad core. Ican get the 2100+h61+ddr3 1600mhz combo for 247$. so still the i5-750 is still cheaper but "slower"?

 

[sangyup81]

Can't do that, my board is so old that doesn't support Quad core's. as for Dual vs Quad cores. Iwould like to get quad core for games like BF3 that have support for a quad core. Ican get the 2100+h61+ddr3 1600mhz combo for 247$. so still the i5-750 is still cheaper but "slower"?

If your budget is really a problem, why not go for a Phenom II X2 and a motherboard with unlocking capabilities?

 

[Jonnyblack01]

If your budget is really a problem, why not go for a Phenom II X2 and a motherboard with unlocking capabilities?

Phenom II X2+880X+Ram for 264$ thats more expensive than the lynnfield. and I rather sitck with intel tbh.

 

[Rvenger]

Ican get the 2100+h61+ddr3 1600mhz combo for 247$. so still the i5-750 is still cheaper but "slower"?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=109

How about an H67 and i5-2400 combo? Your 2100+H61 combo was the best bet so far IMHO.

 

[sangyup81]

Phenom II X2+880X+Ram for 264$ thats more expensive than the lynnfield. and I rather sitck with intel tbh.

http://www.microcenter.com/specials/...ndlePROMO.html

PII X2 + Biostar A770E3 is $89.99. Not sure which RAM you're talking about but I can't see how this could end up being more than your Lynnfield combo.

If you're not comfortable with using non-Intel, I guess I can see why.

 

[Jonnyblack01]

http://www.microcenter.com/specials/...ndlePROMO.html

PII X2 + Biostar A770E3 is $89.99. Not sure which RAM you're talking about but I can't see how this could end up being more than your Lynnfield combo.

If you're not comfortable with using non-Intel, I guess I can see why.

Read my first post, ido not live in the US. iwas just giving prices where I live in U.S Dollar.

 

[Cerb]

Can't do that, my board is so old that doesn't support Quad core's. as for Dual vs Quad cores. Iwould like to get quad core for games like BF3 that have support for a quad core. Ican get the 2100+h61+ddr3 1600mhz combo for 247$. so still the i5-750 is still cheaper but "slower"?

That's a tough one. The 750 can edge it out somewhat with several threads, but otherwise, stock, that's reasonable.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=289

Any OC plans for the new chip? If so, the SB i3 line-up can be ignored. Significant overclocking will simply not happen with them. I was kind of hoping all the SB i3 CPUs would be significantly cheaper than all the i5 quads, like in the US, which would make for a good value. It looks like new tech is more expensive than old tech, instead. If you plan to OC the crap out of it, the i5-750 is a much better choice. If not, it's down to the 2 cores v. 4 cores choice.

 

[sangyup81]

Read my first post, ido not live in the US. iwas just giving prices where I live in U.S Dollar.

here where I live prices are insane

You didn't exactly say where "here" was but thanks for clarifying it.

Anyways, I think a Sandy Bridge i3 or even a Sandy Bridge Pentium might be more worth it than an i5 Lynnfield for the sake of future CPU upgrades like for Ivy Bridge. You still get 4 threads with i3s if you really need 4 threads.

Wish you could tell us how much the CPU and the motherboards are separately so we can get a better idea of what to recommend to you.

 

[Jonnyblack01]

You didn't exactly say where "here" was but thanks for clarifying it.

Anyways, I think a Sandy Bridge i3 or even a Sandy Bridge Pentium might be more worth it than an i5 Lynnfield for the sake of future CPU upgrades like for Ivy Bridge. You still get 4 threads with i3s if you really need 4 threads.

Wish you could tell us how much the CPU and the motherboards are separately so we can get a better idea of what to recommend to you.

Here = Hungary.

here 1 U.S Dollar = 180 Forint

Core i5-750 - 25000Ft

Asus P7P55 LX - 15000Ft

Kingston 2x2GB kit 1600Mhz DDR3 - 11000 Ft


Core i5-2500K - 42500 Ft

GigaByte GA-P67A-UD3-B3 - 30000 Ft

Same kingston Ram.


These are cheap "boards" or are there any cheaper?

 

[Zap]

does the 2120k even exist???

No. It was mis-reported. The original source stated that it was a typo, but it had already been parroted all over tech forums.

 

[Spicedaddy]

For those prices, just get the i5-750.

 

[Jonnyblack01]

That's a tough one. The 750 can edge it out somewhat with several threads, but otherwise, stock, that's reasonable.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=289

Any OC plans for the new chip? If so, the SB i3 line-up can be ignored. Significant overclocking will simply not happen with them. I was kind of hoping all the SB i3 CPUs would be significantly cheaper than all the i5 quads, like in the US, which would make for a good value. It looks like new tech is more expensive than old tech, instead. If you plan to OC the crap out of it, the i5-750 is a much better choice. If not, it's down to the 2 cores v. 4 cores choice.

Well IWould like to keep it for atleast 3 years so OC is a must if iwant to keep the minimal frames high. so yeah OC Ihave plans on Overclocking. thats why ican't decide/justify spending twice the money for the 2500k, prices for PhenomII X4 combos are almost identical to the 1156 socket. funny thing that here ( in Hungary ) used 1366 parts are more expensive then new 1155 parts. a.k used i7 920 go for 240$.

For those prices, just get the i5-750.

Gonna wait 2-3 more days, im curios about what people think.

 

[sm625]

You sure you cannot insert a quad? Is your board one of those Asus turds that die when you try to update the bios?

 

[Jonnyblack01]

You sure you cannot insert a quad? Is your board one of those Asus turds that die when you try to update the bios?

Nah its one of those really old board that had support for only celerons, PentiumD..and only (as a special bonus) Conroe cpu's, which Iuse atm.

Ican however upgrade to a used P35 board for 44$.

By the way. prices for Quads in hungary.

Q6600/Q8400 - 138$ with p35 Board - 182$
Q9300 - 166$ + board = 210$
Q9550 - 250$ + board = 294$

Iso wish I'lived in the US

 

[Phynaz]

Get the i5-750.

There is no way on the planet that a SB CPU is worth $200 more, unless this is for business.

 

[Crap Daddy]

Well your prices are in fact very good. An i5-750 is 215 $ on newegg in the US so there's something wrong with that price. Also the Sandy has a very good price, here in Romania I got a 2500K for 200 Euro which is around 280$ so don't complain. Back on topic if you don't plan to upgrade for the nest 3 years then the 2500K is a tremendous value for the money. You can easily take it to 4,4-4,5 GHz. It is a solid investment. Maybe you could get and ASRock board a little cheaper than the Giga. I can recommend the P67 Extreme4, great board for a great price.

 

[edplayer]

So my question is - here where I live prices are insane. so Ican get a i5-750 + p55+1600mhz DDR3 for ~227$ US dollar. or should Igo with the new Sandy for i5-2500k+p67+DDR3 1600mhz DDR for 447$?

At those price, i5 750

I think Sandy Bridge is about 15% faster clock for clock. Plus it will overclock a little higher also. Good but definitely not worth double the money.

 

[Vesku]

i5-750 with a good cpu cooler, OC it and ride it until 2013 for the 2nd wave of Intel's mainstream enthusiast 22nm CPUs. Unless you really, really want Ivy Bridge then get i3-2100 with a z68 board no OC but Intel indicated you should be able to drop in Ivy Bridge.

 

[amenx]

I stopped thinking about socket compatibility long ago. If I buy a new CPU, I will buy a new mobo with it even if the old one has the same socket. Reason is that with newer CPUs, newer chipsets are also released which may take advantage of the new CPUs features and would be more optimized for it.