Lynne Cheney Rips CNN

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: DonVito
You're hallucinating. I will give you $20 if you can find a post in which I express an interest in Heinz-Kerry's opinion. I think she's a bright lady, but very very disagreeable, and she was a liability to him as a candidate.

You owe me $20 :laugh:

Here you are defending her...

Now how will you be paying? :D

Negative. That's not me expressing an interest in her opinion. Making these kinds of distinctions doesn't seem to be your strength.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Negative. That's not me expressing an interest in her opinion. Making these kinds of distinctions doesn't seem to be your strength.

Ah, right.

Your own words:

The thing is, in context her statement is akin to saying no human is qualified to be God. She's just saying no one person is singlehandedly qualified to, in her words, "run the world." It's not as though she said he was less qualified than some other person.

You weren't interested in her opinion, yet you are trying to explain it?
 

JD50

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Wait a minute, didn't I hear her say that she was there to discuss her book? Why is Wolf Blitzer asking her questions that don't pertain to her book? Where is the outrage?
 

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Originally posted by: JD50
Wait a minute, didn't I hear her say that she was there to discuss her book? Why is Wolf Blitzer asking her questions that don't pertain to her book? Where is the outrage?

That's a good point.
 
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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: DonVito
Negative. That's not me expressing an interest in her opinion. Making these kinds of distinctions doesn't seem to be your strength.

Ah, right.

Your own words:

The thing is, in context her statement is akin to saying no human is qualified to be God. She's just saying no one person is singlehandedly qualified to, in her words, "run the world." It's not as though she said he was less qualified than some other person.

You weren't interested in her opinion, yet you are trying to explain it?

Yep. I don't see that as expressing an interest in her opinion, I see it as clarifying a mischaracterization of her opinion. If you really disagree, and the consensus here is that I was expressing an interest in her opinion, I will Paypal you $20. I'm a man of my word. From my perspective, though, I never gave two sh!ts what Heinz-Kerry thought about anything, and I don't see that my post was inconsistent with that.
 

UberNeuman

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I don't believe discusing someone's statement means you have an active interest in what they have to say...

 

JD50

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Originally posted by: UberNeuman
I don't believe discusing someone's statement means you have an active interest in what they have to say...


Then why would you discuss it?
 
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
I don't believe discusing someone's statement means you have an active interest in what they have to say...


Then why would you discuss it?

I'll give you an example: above, I described watching the subject video of Lynne Cheney, and offered my take on it. That being said, as I said above, I don't give a crap about her opinion, just as I never gave a crap about Heinz-Kerry's (or Laura Bush's or Tipper Gore's for that matter).
 

UberNeuman

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I have no active interest in what Rush has to say, but I've read and talked about his statements concerning MJF...

You can discuss people, ideas and statements without having an active interest in them....

 

Thump553

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: DonVito
Who cares what Lynne Cheney thinks? You might as well quote Marilyn Quayle. The only thing I've ever heard of Lynne Cheney doing or saying was her writing a lesbian romance novel. Obviously she has a right to her opinion, but why would we care about it?
Well since a lot of the posters on here rip Fox on a regular basis it is nice to see someone do the same for CNN.

Perhaps our response on future Fox attacks shall be "Who cares what you think?"

Let's see if CNN does 3-4 days of nearly 24 hour rebuttal/"explanations" of how the interviewee was wrong and out of control like FauxNews did after the Clinton interview.

 

trenchfoot

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i have no idea what dick cheney is as a husband, or a father.

what i do know is as VPOTUS and uber-agent in situ of big oil and big business, he represents all the arrogance and elitism that he and his pnac henchmen gleefully bandies about in the course of emptying out our tax coffers into the hands of his fellow crooks while spitefully abrogating the Constitution of this here good 'ol USofA in the name of some kind of "war on terror" that they cooked up as an exploit.

i admire mrs. cheney for sticking up for her husband as any faithful and loyal spouse would. however, as a political entity, she is right in there with all the rest of those high-browed snooty "american royalty" types that have a mind to turn our government into their very own personal loan and collecting agency and job mart for their friends and families.

if anything, watching her lash out from her gilded throne is rather comical considering how she and her kind behaved upon seizing the white house and congress a few years back.

they proceeded to gorge themselves drunk and silly with political power and money on the backs of the average american. after all that, to see how they react when they get their inflated egos thrown back in their faces is rather funny.

edit- spl
 

DealMonkey

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She has every right to her opinion, of course. CNN *does* have a liberal bias, it's just as transparent as Fox's conservative bias. It's why Lynn Cheney's appearance on CNN was a rare one. You would *think* though, that elected officials and their significant others would want to get their message out to all Americans, not just the conservative ones. That's where I see a problem. Lynn Cheney cries about media bias and yet her husband (as well as the President) choose to appear on Fox (or Rush, or Hannity) with far more regularity. And then you have Cheney's marching orders for his assistants: when traveling, all TVs must be tuned to Fox.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Thump553
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: DonVito
Who cares what Lynne Cheney thinks? You might as well quote Marilyn Quayle. The only thing I've ever heard of Lynne Cheney doing or saying was her writing a lesbian romance novel. Obviously she has a right to her opinion, but why would we care about it?
Well since a lot of the posters on here rip Fox on a regular basis it is nice to see someone do the same for CNN.

Perhaps our response on future Fox attacks shall be "Who cares what you think?"

Let's see if CNN does 3-4 days of nearly 24 hour rebuttal/"explanations" of how the interviewee was wrong and out of control like FauxNews did after the Clinton interview.


Let's see if all the people that defended Clinton and said how articulate and commanding he was during his interview say the same about Lynn Cheney, and don't forget about the fact that she was there to discuss her book but was being asked about other issues. Are those same people going to defend her and accuse Wolf Blitzer of inviting her there under false pretense?

Just to put my personal opinion in here, I think all interviews are fair game, and you should expect to be asked anything.
 

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Originally posted by: Vich
Listen.

Liberals will say CNN is not biased, and that Fox News is biased towards conservatives.
Conservatives will say Fox News is not biased, and that CNN is biased towards liberals.

Just learn to live with it people.

Sure, except this isn't some PC bullshit matter of opinion, the key difference here is that the "liberals" are right and the "conservatives" are wrong. This namby-pamby, passive aggressive thing you folks have with "well, that's just my opinion" is stupid. If you are going to go around making proclamations about things, be prepared to back them up...don't whine about it when people call you on things like this. Everyone is not entitled to their own set of facts.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Vich
Listen.

Liberals will say CNN is not biased, and that Fox News is biased towards conservatives.
Conservatives will say Fox News is not biased, and that CNN is biased towards liberals.

Just learn to live with it people.

Sure, except this isn't some PC bullshit matter of opinion, the key difference here is that the "liberals" are right and the "conservatives" are wrong. This namby-pamby, passive aggressive thing you folks have with "well, that's just my opinion" is stupid. If you are going to go around making proclamations about things, be prepared to back them up...don't whine about it when people call you on things like this. Everyone is not entitled to their own set of facts.

LOL, at least most of us conservative on this board will admit that Fox News is biased towards the right. Saying that CNN is not biased shows your bias.

 

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Originally posted by: Vich
Originally posted by: Pabster
Story here.

I must say, I don't disagree with Mrs. Cheney. CNN clearly has a leftist agenda and I find their airing of terrorist propaganda akin to aiding the enemy.

EDIT: Video Link Here.

She brought up some good points. This is no surprise, CNN has always been very leftist.

What was her best point? Her claim that CNN is trying to help the terrorists win by airing "terrorist propaganda"? I bet that idiot didn't even watch the broadcast.
 
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Originally posted by: JD50

LOL, at least most of us conservative on this board will admit that Fox News is biased towards the right. Saying that CNN is not biased shows your bias.

I don't think the two are comparable, or even close. CNN at least reports the news without obvious editorializing, and they, like every other major news provider, bought the White House's OIF BS hook, line, and sinker. Fox News is so transparent that it's like the Newsmax of cable TV.
 

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GOP is running ads airing terrorist propaganda. Of course it's only terrorist propaganda when it's not convenient for them, but they are perfectly happy to do the terrorists' work for them if it helps win elections.
 

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This whole war is a propoganda. Is Miss Cheney or the Republican party saying that CNN should only broadcast the Bush Administration's propaganda and not the other side? Whatever happened to hearing both sides of the story?
 

trenchfoot

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: Vich
Originally posted by: Pabster
Story here.

I must say, I don't disagree with Mrs. Cheney. CNN clearly has a leftist agenda and I find their airing of terrorist propaganda akin to aiding the enemy.

EDIT: Video Link Here.

She brought up some good points. This is no surprise, CNN has always been very leftist.

What was her best point? Her claim that CNN is trying to help the terrorists win by airing "terrorist propaganda"? I bet that idiot didn't even watch the broadcast.
i believe she mentioned the neocon "help the terrorists" talking point because she had no other personal opinion that was substantive enough to stand on its own in regards to that specific topic of discussion.

as to helping the terrorists by showing them shooting american soldiers, all it did for me was to feel sincere and deep sorrow for those troops who were put in harm's way and outright disgust at an administration that look at our armed forces as mere consumable assets that have a good rate of return in petrodollars, while hiding behind the facade of being compassionate and caring for them.

yes, mr. donald "the hatchet" rumsfeld, you and "dead-eye" dick cheney are the quintessential role models in this regard.

 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: tweaker2
yes, mr. donald "the hatchet" rumsfeld, you and "dead-eye" dick cheney are the quintessential role models in this regard.

Lame obfuscation attempt.

This thread isn't about Rumsfeld.

 

trenchfoot

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: tweaker2
yes, mr. donald "the hatchet" rumsfeld, you and "dead-eye" dick cheney are the quintessential role models in this regard.

Lame obfuscation attempt.

This thread isn't about Rumsfeld.
yeah, you're right about rumsfeld. but at least i'm glad that you agree with me as far as cheney is concerned.;)

edit - spl

 

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Originally posted by: DonVito
I don't give a crap about her opinion, just as I never gave a crap about Heinz-Kerry's (or Laura Bush's or Tipper Gore's for that matter).

So then you are admitting you dont care what women think?