Don Vito Corleone
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Ah, right.
Your own words:
The thing is, in context her statement is akin to saying no human is qualified to be God. She's just saying no one person is singlehandedly qualified to, in her words, "run the world." It's not as though she said he was less qualified than some other person.
You weren't interested in her opinion, yet you are trying to explain it?
Don Vito Corleone
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Yep. I don't see that as expressing an interest in her opinion, I see it as clarifying a mischaracterization of her opinion. If you really disagree, and the consensus here is that I was expressing an interest in her opinion, I will Paypal you $20. I'm a man of my word. From my perspective, though, I never gave two sh!ts what Heinz-Kerry thought about anything, and I don't see that my post was inconsistent with that.
UberNeuman
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I don't believe discusing someone's statement means you have an active interest in what they have to say...
Don Vito Corleone
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I'll give you an example: above, I described watching the subject video of Lynne Cheney, and offered my take on it. That being said, as I said above, I don't give a crap about her opinion, just as I never gave a crap about Heinz-Kerry's (or Laura Bush's or Tipper Gore's for that matter).
UberNeuman
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I have no active interest in what Rush has to say, but I've read and talked about his statements concerning MJF...
You can discuss people, ideas and statements without having an active interest in them....
You can discuss people, ideas and statements without having an active interest in them....
trenchfoot
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i have no idea what dick cheney is as a husband, or a father.
what i do know is as VPOTUS and uber-agent in situ of big oil and big business, he represents all the arrogance and elitism that he and his pnac henchmen gleefully bandies about in the course of emptying out our tax coffers into the hands of his fellow crooks while spitefully abrogating the Constitution of this here good 'ol USofA in the name of some kind of "war on terror" that they cooked up as an exploit.
i admire mrs. cheney for sticking up for her husband as any faithful and loyal spouse would. however, as a political entity, she is right in there with all the rest of those high-browed snooty "american royalty" types that have a mind to turn our government into their very own personal loan and collecting agency and job mart for their friends and families.
if anything, watching her lash out from her gilded throne is rather comical considering how she and her kind behaved upon seizing the white house and congress a few years back.
they proceeded to gorge themselves drunk and silly with political power and money on the backs of the average american. after all that, to see how they react when they get their inflated egos thrown back in their faces is rather funny.
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what i do know is as VPOTUS and uber-agent in situ of big oil and big business, he represents all the arrogance and elitism that he and his pnac henchmen gleefully bandies about in the course of emptying out our tax coffers into the hands of his fellow crooks while spitefully abrogating the Constitution of this here good 'ol USofA in the name of some kind of "war on terror" that they cooked up as an exploit.
i admire mrs. cheney for sticking up for her husband as any faithful and loyal spouse would. however, as a political entity, she is right in there with all the rest of those high-browed snooty "american royalty" types that have a mind to turn our government into their very own personal loan and collecting agency and job mart for their friends and families.
if anything, watching her lash out from her gilded throne is rather comical considering how she and her kind behaved upon seizing the white house and congress a few years back.
they proceeded to gorge themselves drunk and silly with political power and money on the backs of the average american. after all that, to see how they react when they get their inflated egos thrown back in their faces is rather funny.
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She has every right to her opinion, of course. CNN *does* have a liberal bias, it's just as transparent as Fox's conservative bias. It's why Lynn Cheney's appearance on CNN was a rare one. You would *think* though, that elected officials and their significant others would want to get their message out to all Americans, not just the conservative ones. That's where I see a problem. Lynn Cheney cries about media bias and yet her husband (as well as the President) choose to appear on Fox (or Rush, or Hannity) with far more regularity. And then you have Cheney's marching orders for his assistants: when traveling, all TVs must be tuned to Fox.
JD50
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Let's see if all the people that defended Clinton and said how articulate and commanding he was during his interview say the same about Lynn Cheney, and don't forget about the fact that she was there to discuss her book but was being asked about other issues. Are those same people going to defend her and accuse Wolf Blitzer of inviting her there under false pretense?
Just to put my personal opinion in here, I think all interviews are fair game, and you should expect to be asked anything.
Sure, except this isn't some PC bullshit matter of opinion, the key difference here is that the "liberals" are right and the "conservatives" are wrong. This namby-pamby, passive aggressive thing you folks have with "well, that's just my opinion" is stupid. If you are going to go around making proclamations about things, be prepared to back them up...don't whine about it when people call you on things like this. Everyone is not entitled to their own set of facts.
What was her best point? Her claim that CNN is trying to help the terrorists win by airing "terrorist propaganda"? I bet that idiot didn't even watch the broadcast.
UberNeuman
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Don Vito Corleone
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I don't think the two are comparable, or even close. CNN at least reports the news without obvious editorializing, and they, like every other major news provider, bought the White House's OIF BS hook, line, and sinker. Fox News is so transparent that it's like the Newsmax of cable TV.
This whole war is a propoganda. Is Miss Cheney or the Republican party saying that CNN should only broadcast the Bush Administration's propaganda and not the other side? Whatever happened to hearing both sides of the story?
trenchfoot
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i believe she mentioned the neocon "help the terrorists" talking point because she had no other personal opinion that was substantive enough to stand on its own in regards to that specific topic of discussion.
as to helping the terrorists by showing them shooting american soldiers, all it did for me was to feel sincere and deep sorrow for those troops who were put in harm's way and outright disgust at an administration that look at our armed forces as mere consumable assets that have a good rate of return in petrodollars, while hiding behind the facade of being compassionate and caring for them.
yes, mr. donald "the hatchet" rumsfeld, you and "dead-eye" dick cheney are the quintessential role models in this regard.
trenchfoot
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yeah, you're right about rumsfeld. but at least i'm glad that you agree with me as far as cheney is concerned.
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